Trying to escape Google’s ecosystem, but past purchases keep pulling me back. #DeGoogled #GoogleLockIn #PrivacyStruggles #TechDilemma #FOSS #DigitalFreedom #AndroidAlternatives
Let go of the past, think for the future!
P.S: You bought them, if the licence doesn’t transfer you are in all right to pirate them. 🙄 There is a really good megathread on reddit. Hopefully someday they move to Fediverse. 🤞🏻
Already done: lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy
Let’s call it a five-finger discount. 🖐️
There is absolutely NOTHING I purchased on the play store that I need. Forget about replacing, i’m genuinely better off without it
Its not only in google purchases. Almost all digital assets are licensed based, you buy a license. You don’t own anything and it fucking sucks. I therefore try to buy CDs of games or movies if possible
I use a ROM with microg and it actually works for all the things I need.
Don’t hesitate for a second to buy a Pixel for the purposes of GrapheneOS. By all means avoid all other ways of giving Google money, but this is a clearly reasonable exception.
People don’t use GrapheneOS to avoid giving Google their money. They do it to protect their privacy.
No shit.
Your other post really makes it sound like you think people use GrapheneOS to hurt Google’s business model.
No it doesn’t? They literally called it an exception…
I’ve heard pixels have out of band chips in them acting as hardware backdoors
I’ve heard there’s nanomachines in 5G vaccines
That’s easy to prove, so unless a researcher has shown it to be true, I would take it as misinformation.
Stop with the hashtags, this isn’t Twitter
Edit: I was wrong, my bad.
iirc hashtags work for people using mastodon which lemmy.world federates with https://lemmy.world/instances
(could be wrong though)Damn, you’re right, my bad!
this isn’t Twitter
But this is Mastodon (for some of us).
Lemmy and Mastodon share content, now.
This new nerd Internet is weird, but it’s weird in cool ways.
Damn, you’re right, my bad!
Don’t feel bad, this place is weird. It’s a good weird. But weird.
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Why do u have your purchases on Google?
Losing the ability to use my FELiCA chip is a big one for me. We use it for all kinds of things here in Japan, the most annoying of which being all kinds of things for verifying our identity by reading our My Number (and other) cards. It would also add up to an hour to any of my commutes to account for having to wait to buy tickets, etc.
Not sure I understand. What do you buy from Google? If you want to degoogle, purchasing other stuff, or through channels other than the Play store is probably the simplest part.
Well, you don’t need to worry too much now as Android has gone (or is going) close source which may affect rom devs, making a private phone even more difficult unless linux becomes mainstream as an alternative.Update: Crap, missed a bit of the article
When new versions of Android are done, Google says it will continue to publish the source code in AOSP as always.
Please disregard my previous message and confusion.
This is wrong. Google will now share Android code after each new Android release, instead of releasing over time in real time. This is not uncommon in open source projects.
I’m not defending, or claiming that they won’t try to make Android closed source eventually in the future, but right now what you said isn’t correct
It’s definitely step in the wrong direction and knowing Google, they will not stop here.
You are correct, I went back to the article and re-read the whole thing and found a sentence that I missed the first time. I have updated my original comment.
Hmm, I think that based on your comment, I should try to reconsider using a Linux-based phone.
Android is Linux FYI. The easiest thing to do is get a custom ROM with tracking and shit removed like lineage OS.
I can’t shell out the money for another phone but I deleted my google account and replaced all the Google apps on my phone with FOSS apps. I don’t have root access on my phone so I can’t actually get rid of all of the Google apps. Best I can do until I need to replace my phone. Fortunately I never purchased anything from Google.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Find the least used paid service and look for an alternative. Start with replacing google drive.Only services I paid for were games.
You can install paid apps with aurora store if you already bought them on Google Play or you can download them modded from other sources :)
modded from other sources
True! But depending on the obscurity of the app it can be hard to find non-malware versions of such modded apps.
Scan your sus APKs, folks! Its fast and free – Virustotal.com does a pretty good job 🙂 I’ve caught a coupla apk Trojans there in the past!
Thanks for your info. 😄👍
Its called a walled garden for a reason. Good luck dude. What’s your plan?
Everyone saying you can’t have Graphene and google store apps as a daily driver must have given up day one or had some important app that they needed. I’m about 10 months in now.
Graphene sandboxes all the apps, including google services. Yes, it’d be ideal to ditch google all together but reality makes that not feasible for a lot of people. Which is why graphene went through the effort to makes google services work.
You do have to download Google Services Graphenes own mini “app store”. gmail 2FA works, play store/and restoring purchases works, Android Auto works, push notifications work.
It is true, some apps do not work on graphene. Mostly banking apps with extra security. There is a compatibility mode you can set for the app that reduces Graphene’s restrictions on the app. Sometimes that works.
So in short, yes the meme is true. We are still locked into google one way or another, but at least we don’t have to let them and other apps steal all our data.
Google services are kinda like those family members you’ll only come see at family gatherings, but you otherwise don’t let them into any other aspect of your life.
You don’t need to run any binaries from Google on your phone, and still get most apps running fine with CalyxOS.
It’s not as hardened as Graphene, but I’m just looking for privacy while still having reliability and functionality.
It’s been 3yrs as a daily, works great with my banks,a few medical applications etc. Tap to pay still doesn’t work, and I don’t want a Google account anyway.
do you know if Revolut is usable on Graphene again?
