• Commiunism@beehaw.org
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    1 month ago

    To add to this, Capitalism directly benefits from “traditional family values” where everyone is straight, reproducing, no abortions, women stay at home raising children via their unpaid labor, etc. As grim as it sounds, children to the capitalist system are just future workers ready to be exploited, so any movement that even remotely threaten to make a dent in that (abortion rights, queer rights, women’s liberation) get demonized and are vehemently fought against.

    There’s a reason why the current pro-natalist movement is getting quite strong nowadays, and if you look at who supports and promotes them, 99% of the time its business owners.

  • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    This space gives me the life that the ever-present tankie-versus-liberal fight elsewhere on lemmy is constantly trying to steal.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Wow, I think this is a bad take. Capitalism has a lot of shitty things going on, but it was one of the ones that saved the LGBTQ+ communities because they realized they could make money off them. Pick your power poison, religion or capitalism.

    • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 month ago

      This is such an incredibly awful take that completely disregards the very obvious problem that’s currently happening; what happens when it isn’t economical for those companies to support us?

      Everything the LGBTQ+ community has gained in the past decades was from our own activism, don’t pretend the capitalists were doing us a fucking favor.

      • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        29 days ago

        Activism, and as always, the ever-present threat of retaliatory violence that is all the state seems to respect!

        We need to get back to our roots.

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        Your own activism and allies. I don’t see many LGBTQ+ in other extremely religious countries. I was thinking of Europe mostly and the bad times that are currently happening in the US are in sharp contrast to other countries where it’s still accepted. Countries like Russia and China are notoriously shitty towards LGBTQ+ people. So are extremely religious countries.

        • Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 month ago

          ok… but they are capitalist countries using queer people as a scape goat just as the post says??

          sure this isnt inherent to capitalism, it is inherent to power structures as a whole

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        Damn right they did. No one was going to help. The early AIDS crisis demanded a response, silence is death.

        Now we have to do it again. As a good old fashioned cis male homosexual who could ‘blend in’ if I chose, I will be the first to bitchslap any member of the gay community that thinks we need to throw trans people under the bus.

        We are in this together or we are all in grave danger again.