Summary

Brittany Patterson, 41, was shocked to face a criminal charge for alleged reckless conduct when her unsupervised 10-year-old son walked less than a mile from their home.

Although authorities offered to drop the charge if she agreed to always supervise her children, Patterson refuses to sign, insisting she did nothing wrong and will fight the charge, which could lead to up to a year in jail.

Her lawyer argues that parents should have discretion over their children’s whereabouts, questioning if constant GPS tracking is now expected. Patterson was released on $500 bail.

  • Melody Fwygon@lemmy.one
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    1 month ago

    Yikes.

    In 1997; I was walking about 2 miles to and from school. Unsupervised. I had a house key on my neck and was a latchkey kid in third grade. I obediently walked to and from school directly from home; meeting the crossing guard a half mile from school twice a day; as I had to cross a major 4 lane divided highway.

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    1 month ago

    When I was s kid in ft worth I used to ride my bike across town and all over downtown and nobody batted an eye

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    I’m confused… shouldn’t this be happening in one of those liberal nanny states where big government is supposed to be all up in your business?

    Oh, right… those people need to tell you how to raise YOUR kids, but don’t you dare tell them how to raise theirs…

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    I uaed to walk 4 miles to school and even further back (because i walked with a friend to their house and then to kine on the way home) instead of taking the bus. I would keep my bus money and use it to buy drinks and stuff. This was only 20 years ago. Much has changed.

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    When I was a kid, I literally walked 43 miles from my home one day. Took 15 hours. I just had my parents pick me up when I got to the pizza place - no big deal.

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        They could have lived in a city that straddles a state boundary. Crossing to a different city/state could be done measured a matter of meters/yards.

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          At the Four Corners, they could be in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, or Utah in a single step.

          More realistically, if you were in NYC, you could hop a train and be in CT, NJ, or PA for a day trip. Or even further, if you started early enough.

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            I was thinking something like this where you can be TOTALLY INSIDE ONE SMALL BUILDING and be in two different cities/states.

            The left side of gas station (QuickTrip) is Kansas City, Kansas. The right side of the gas station is Kansas City, Missouri. So cross state lines going from the chip aisle to the soda refrigerators.

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              Yeah, would pass through Misery for my lunch breaks to get to this Quick-Trip. Too bad they had Kansas taxes. Cigarettes were hella high.

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              How the hell does this work employment wise? Are employees working in Kansas or Missouri and which state collects taxes? Probably not as big of an issue there, but in my state we have things like income tax while our neighbors don’t, which would make situations like this incredibly confusing.

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                Just a guess, the mailing address probably specifies which state’s rules its under. Police enforcement might be interesting though.

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              Google Maps boundaries aren’t the most accurate. You can look up property records for KCMO and see it’s almost entirely inside KCMO (though it does span multiple parcels).

              What’s more interesting is that while the building is in KCMO, the address of the gas pump canopy is in KCK. I’m sure they all just use the address of the entire business in KCMO for all legal purposes.

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        I got a 10-speed bike when I was about 10. A friend and I rode 15 miles to my uncle’s house to visit my cousin. Got home that evening and told my mom and she was like “That’s a bit too far away. Anyway let’s have supper.”

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      Small town rural Georgia, no less!

      I crossed out “small town” because Mineral Bluff is too small to even count as incorporated. Literally all that’s there, in terms of businesses, is a gas station, a Dollar General, and whatever the Hell this is.

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          That used to be true in the area. My family has lived there for generations. It has seen a lot of change and now it’s full of tourists and cabin rentals. It used to be very remote and disconnected from Atlanta but a governor from the area built a nice highway to get people to the mountains and it isn’t all locals now. A lot of people retire there and begin demanding changes to laws. You may be right about a squabble though, mountain towns have family fights that go on for decades.

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            Unless you are using a specific definition I’m not familiar with this isn’t true. There are definitely places officially reffered to as village rather than city or town.

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              It certainly isn’t common.

              Most of the “small towns” would be villages everywhere else, but it feels like it’s shameful in the US. Maybe some places decided to roll with it.

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                It’s pretty common in NY state and other areas of New England. Outside of that area however, the term is rarely used outside of shopping centers, apartment complexes, or HOA governed planned housing communities.

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        That’s what happens when you have a general store and a Dollar general comes in next door. They sell anything you can’t get at the Dollar general store and then advertising space.

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    I used to have to walk a mile to the friggin school bus stop, shit is ridiculous nowadays.

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    The elementary school closest to us is about a mile away. Kids in my neighborhood walk to school.

    What the hell is wrong with letting a kid walk a mile away??

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      Probably somebody got elected on a “protect the children” and did this to prove it. It’s not like it effects the jackass responsible for it. It’s performance child protection and it’s pretty common.

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    When the authorities make a misstep, they often keep going for fear of looking weak and leaving space for future exploitation

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      I had a bike. I can assure you, I went MILES away. At 10, I was probably riding 1-5 miles to friends houses or to neighborhoods for selling whatever nonsense my scouts program was selling.

      Just be home when the street lights come on!

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        Or, as they were called then, kids. This modern stranger danger and always track your kids is insane, everyone be living like the sky is falling every ten seconds.

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          Keeping a population in a state of perpetual fear is by design. It’s the first and an essential step to being able to manipulate people into voting against their own interests

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            It also serves to keep people isolated, and prevents kids from forming lasting relationships that can later be used to discuss and compare issues and organize.

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        My family had a healthy idea of limits, closer to the “free range” philosophy, before such a term was required.

        Our neighbors across the street, however, were the prototype for helicopter parents.

        While my sibling and I gained confidence and navigational skills by biking around our confusing neighborhood before the days of GPS, the neighbor’s kids weren’t allowed to go down the street unsupervised. My siblings and I stood alone on the corner bus stop, but the neighbor’s mom sat in her car and only released her kids when the bus had arrived.

        At the time, my parents made fun of theirs for holding such a tight leash. We also pitied the kids because they panicked about being “lost” when my siblings brought them on a walk around the block.

        But now I see kids sitting in cars at bus stops as the norm. And of course, stories like the above article go to show that the helicopter style has won (for the time being.) The people who were raised to fear everything outside their front yard are now parents themselves.

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          My mom has done the sit in car while waiting for the bus to come thing before and its super annoying. Mind you the bus stop was like 60m away from the house. It actually took longer to drive because of the time it took to take the car out of the garage and get in but my mother insisted. For the past three years I have just stopped listening to my parents and just leave the house without saying anything. Its to ask for forgiveness than permission. I have been biking to neigboring cities and they don’t even realize I left. I have also been able to force them to let me bike to school because I have work right after my morning classes and biking is the fastest way to get to work.

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    The initial reports of this made it sound much worse, now it seems so tame this charge borders on ludicrous. I walked about 2 miles to my bus stop as a kid with no side walk and it was ABSOLUTELY unsafe, but we didn’t have a choice as the roads were no outlet and too narrow for a bus to get into my neighborhood. I never saw a kid get hit, but I knew of multiple adults that were hit by a car with a few fatalities. I still think this Georgia story sounds dumb, so either we’re being deprived of details or the police are being ridiculous.

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      Why is it so hard for you to stand behind your own words? If you can’t do it, then stop replying?

      And American police being ridiculous is just so off-character to them that that option seems just impossible, doesn’t it?

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    This really feels insane, even for this day and age. Which makes me think we’re probably not getting the entire story.

    If true, it’s downright silly. Back in the 80’s, we were out of the house unsupervised for hours. Parents just about encouraged you take candy from friendly strangers or to hitch a ride in their cool white van with ‘Free Puppies’ written on it. As long as you made it home without broken bones, they didn’t care. Ask anyone from my generation.

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      I think it’s all on the parent saying they didn’t know where the kid was, the kid saying his parents didn’t know where he was.

      I wonder how my parents would have responded when I was little, “in the woods”? “Up the street at one of the neighbors”? Or “I don’t know”?

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        I mean when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s on weekends my parents generally had no clue where I was as long as I was home by dinner. and if I wasn’t going to be home by dinner then to call and say so. payphones were everywhere, just call and let them know.

        I mean hell I remember one time my friends and I were in some store a good 5 miles away from home and my parents happened to be shopping there at the same time. my mom comes up to me and says “I saw a tshirt you might like, do you want it?” and showed me the shirt and I said sure and that was it “see you later tonight”.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    How we have lost perspective. When I was that age I was forced to walk to school, a distance of about 1.5 miles.

    Forced, mind you, because if you were considered “too close” to the school you were not eligible to ride the bus. Other than the land directly adjoining the school grounds, the roads I had to use also did not have sidewalks. The number of children killed, maimed, or injured by this during the years I attended that school were, to my knowledge… zero.

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      Shit dude I remember walking further than that, at that age…crossing a busy 4-lane (state) highway (without a crosswalk or a sidewalk)…to buy pogs and rent video games.

      That was only…30 years ago. Holy shit that was 30 years ago.

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          Nah man, I’m good, I can walk just as far now to the nearest dispensary. And there’s sidewalks and crosswalks. And some cars that’ll stop themselves if they’re about to hit a pedestrian.

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      I too had to walk to school, but with sidewalks! I do feel if there’s a house, it should have a sidewalk.

      Love sidewalks.

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        My kids not only had sidewalks but after enough complaints we got the city to clear the snow when needed!