• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    It takes a lot of personal discontinuity to say that either the KKK or the SS would be voting for a black woman.

    And yes, personal discontinuity is meant to be a nice way to say: you dumb.

  • drdiddlybadger@pawb.social
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    3 months ago

    Abortion is on the ballot in ten states that isn’t good for Republicans at all. Expect to see way more trolls talking about how they are suddenly voting for the green party despite there being an actual socialist candidate to vote for. Republicans are desperate and know they’re in for big losses if they can’t pull something out.

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    3 months ago

    Never understood the “throw your vote away” thing. Only one person will win. Almost 50% of people will not vote for them in any given election. Did they “throw their vote away” by not voting for the winner? That’s just what voting is.

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      3 months ago

      In the US, the statement only truly applies when voting for a 3rd party, due to how our absolutely fucked FPTP + gerrymandered + electoral college system works, which additionally gives rural (predominantly conservative) areas disproportionately more electoral power. The bar is very literally higher for liberal (in the American sense of the term, not the European/global sense) presidential candidates. So if you vote green or socialist or whatever, you are absolutely voting against your ostensible interests in a statistically-provable sense.

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        3 months ago

        I fear the expression leads to voter fatigue. Why bother if 65% votes one way and I’d vote the other. But what they don’t factor in is that if EVERYONE voted, those margins are small.

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          For me, I go through the motions under the assumption that the other side is going to show up in droves, and am then pleasantly surprised if they don’t and it’s not that close. But that’s the nature of voting - you don’t really know whether YOUR vote will “make the difference” until after the fact.

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        3 months ago

        But realistically, it really doesn’t matter in more than 3/4 of the country, due to how the Electoral College works. If your preferred candidate lost by more than all third party votes combined, there’s zero way your vote could’ve changed anything.

        And that’s the situation I live in. My state (Utah) almost always gives 65%+ of the vote to the R candidate. In 2016, Trump won w/ only 45% of the vote, but that’s because the other 20% or so went to Evan McMullin (Hilary got ~27% of the vote). I even tried voting Biden in 2020 because I figured people hated Trump enough (he got dead last in the primary here in 2016, below candidates that had already withdrawn), and I guess I helped because Trump only got 58% of the vote to Biden’s 38%. Excluding McMullin (basically a conservative), third parties got 5.5% in 2016 and 4.2% in 2020. I’d be very surprised if Trump gets less than 60% of the vote this election.

        It really doesn’t matter who I vote for, so I make my vote count by voting third party. If they get enough votes, people will take them more seriously and politicians might take some of their policy positions.

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    3 months ago

    I don’t understand why these people who pretend to be supreme leftists are putting alt-right dogwhistles in the Democratic candidate’s name. I guess you can just call everyone you don’t like a Nazi when everyone who disagrees in your echo chamber gets banned.

  • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I agree; swing states seem to be the only ones that matter when you vote duopoly and all you care about is “winning.”

    I, on the other hand, prefer to have standards, so stop wasting your vote on the status quo, be it Harris or Trump, you will be rewarding genocide.

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      3 months ago

      I hope your sense of moral superiority is worth more to you than the lives and livelihood of some of the US and all of Palestine.

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          It’s not about “rewarding” the politicians. They exist to implement policies. It’s about choosing the policies that materially benefit the causes you care about the most. “Logic”. Jfc.