• saaaaagard@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    17 hours ago

    What these dumbasses don’t realize is that they do rely on these things - every minimum or even low wage worker absolutely needs these services to make ends meet. These people aren’t just evil, they’re stupid.

      • saaaaagard@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 minutes ago

        Generally, people just made more money. Things cost less. Relative to buying power, wages across the USA have fallen since the 70s. We are currently sitting in the culmination of decades of people getting poorer, propped up by credit cards and mortgages.

        And free healthcare was the norm rather than the alternative through history. It was rarely as commodified as it is today. If someone was sick, they weren’t expected to work and other people took care of them. Generally. Another way the current system in the USA is an outlier, and all the more barbaric for it.

      • JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org
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        11 hours ago

        They died substantially more often and sooner. Look up the working conditions prior to the union wars in the US.

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          11 hours ago

          How much is “substantially”? And why do you think union wars were the reason for the decrease in deaths? Maybe it’s just the technological progress or something.

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            6 hours ago

            Statistics tell me there is a relation between healthcare and life expectation.

            https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health-expenditure

            Note the US is the outlier here: that’s the only country in the world with significant spending and no universal healthcare system (only 10 countries in the world don’t have one). And even with that, medical debt is still the first cause of bankrupcy.

            If you slash medicaid, you go to the left of that chart, but you also go down. That’s a political choice, really.

            Fortunately, enough institutions were torn apart that soon the US will also be the exception for being unable to provide numbers for the years to come.

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            3 hours ago

            Because I’m not deluding myself. You wanna continue being a dip shit regarding how improved workplace conditions decreased workplace deaths be my guest. I’m gonna actually use my brain, though.

            EDIT: got alittle heated and used some mentally ableist language. I’m trying to break that habit so I’ve edited that language to reflect that.