"But Rachel also has another hobby, one that makes her a bit different from the other moms in her Texas suburb—not that she talks about it with them. Once a month or so, after she and her husband put the kids to bed, Rachel texts her in-laws—who live just down the street—to make sure they’re home and available in the event of an emergency.

“And then, Rachel takes a generous dose of magic mushrooms, or sometimes MDMA, and—there’s really no other way to say this— spends the next several hours tripping balls.”

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    That the thing. You’re guessing.

    This is not supposed to be about guessing.

    They do not reveal the source of their numbers and any searching I do goes back to David Nutt, who does not explain where he got the data.

    You both need to be more skeptical about this sort of thing. Even if cannabis can lead to lung cancer that doesn’t mean this data is anywhere near accurate.

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      13 days ago

      What do you mean even if?

      Smoke from burning that plant isn’t somehow magic and different to all other smoke.

      Inhaling smoke can lead to cancer.

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          I’m not evading anything. Your entire argument throughout this submission has ultimately whittled down to a disbelief that inhaling smoke can have adverse health effects and, yes, cause cancer.

          Why say “if”? It’s not “if” - it is a well-established fact of biology.

          You may as well be saying “if the world really is a sphere”, or “if climate change is real”.

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              Stop the sealioning.

              Firstly, there’s nothing suggest they’re suspect.

              And secondly, back to what I’m actually talking about, you’re clearly trying to cast doubt on whether breathing in smoke is bad for you. There is no “if”. Smoking does cause cancer.

              And it may shock you to find out that cancer does indeed cause death (it’s true, cancer really does cause death. I can give you sources on that if you like).

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                Firstly, there’s nothing suggest they’re suspect.

                Apart from the fact that, as I said, they come from David Nutt, who won’t say where he got the numbers from. Why that isn’t an issue to you, I don’t know.

                you’re clearly trying to cast doubt on whether breathing in smoke is bad for you.

                I am doing no such thing. If you’re going to lie about what I am saying directly to me, this conversation is over.

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                  13 days ago

                  Read the study.

                  You are doing such thing. You’ve repeatedly sidestepped it, and keep using language to cast doubt on it.

                  I want you to tell me right now that breathing in smoke, unequivocally, causes cancer, and therefore death.

                  Again, this is not a thing in doubt. It’s not an “if”. It’s an established fact.

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                    I have read the study. Both of you have told me to read the study. I did. I don’t think either of you did or you would quote what supports the chart’s claim that there is a significant mortality risk due to using cannabis.

                    The study simply does not show where this information comes from.

                    Don’t tell me to read the study when you have not.