Carney has taken a professional tone in comments regarding the US so far, being matter of fact and non-confrontational while still having clear boundaries. That is a good approach for communications with the US.
That said, him being positive about the call doesn’t change the reality of how the relationship is transformed. Canada still needs to adapt to the new reality and pivot the economy away from US-dependence.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is still in B.C., where he’s pitching life sentences for fentanyl traffickers and gunrunners.
Classic.
Any short-term cooperation must not derail the urgent need to sever our economic and defensive dependencies on that nation.
It’s not simply that Trump is unreliable — American voters are as well.
So yes if we can ease some short-term pains felt by our workers and industries that is fine. But that’s where it ends.
I don’t care what Trump says, because he’s a lying sack of shit. What did Carney say about the call?
He said pretty similar things honestly. I watched the video yesterday so I don’t remember super well but he said T was respectful and it was a good call essentially.
I wish they could talk more openly about what a piece of shit Trump is but Canadian politicians have to show that they are politicians and not children like those on the other side.
Sigh. Looks like it was just Trump being a lying, untrustworthy asshole.
The White house said this just yesterday:
Canadians “will no longer have to endure the inconveniences of international travel when Canada becomes our 51st state.”
We should keep their electricity turned off and stop all oil exports until they stop this bullshit for at least 30 days.
Tone shift! U.S. President Donald Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social that he’s spoken with Prime Minister Mark Carney.
And Trump actually called Carney prime minister, after repeatedly calling former prime minister Justin Trudeau “governor” — part of his annexation taunting.
Trump called it “an extremely productive call.”
I’m grateful Carney is starting to make progress. Let’s hope it continues.
It’s not worth celebrating if he just stops saying it out loud. Still, unclear if he just understands whatever last person he talked to says, or if it was productive because Carney caved on everything.
What could he have caved on? Carney seems to understand that a country can impose any tariff that it wants and there is nothing he or Canada can do about that. All they can do is focus on the response. Trudeau and Ford rushing over to the US to beg for exemptions didn’t exactly play well.
Carney said he would not talk to Trump until he respected Canadian sovereignty. Trump did not call him governor or refer to Canada as the 51st state. At the very least it’s a step forward in discourse which no one else has acheived up until this point.
What could he have caved on?
Renegotiating security/economic relationship after election, may very well mean fewer Canadian exports/GDP, more US weapons purchases, and continued hatred/divisiveness with everyone US orders us to engage in. The disgusting lie that we need a broken bomber-biased plane, the F35, to defend against Russian Arctic invasion is simply evil treason made by foreign allied puppets that steal from Canada. Also, at issue, whatever new deal is signed will have US for sure commit forever to upholding its end.
just understands whatever last person he talked to says
This seems to be the precident that has been set
“Just a little while ago, before I got involved and totally changed the election — which I don’t care about … the Conservative was leading,” he said last Friday.
Damn I can’t stop going to the 22 minutes skit where Trump is totally not jealous of Carney – every statement he makes has vindicated that.
Let’s see how Carney recounts it before celebrating.
Carney/Joli statements:
Negotiate military/trade relationship after election. Retaliatory tariffs still happen on April 2. Lutnick/Leblanc intensive discussions to happen in meantime.
At a minimum, US needs to announce USMCA compliant trade is exempt (nearly all auto trade?). There still hasn’t been retaliation for steel/alumnium tariffs, but permanent USMCA exemption, is path to leverage Canadian cost advantage for future auto plants/shift increases.
In a social media post, Trump said the two “agree on many things.”
That’s good, I guess.
Is it though, especially given the present trajectory and conduct of the Trump regime?
Trump is overtly trying to distance himself from Poilievre and pretend they’re not aligned on right-wing politics.
Trump, Musk, Jordan Peterson, and many other far-right endorsements were terrible for Poilievre’s polls. Now he’s making weak, vague endorsements of Carney in hopes he can hurt his reputation too and get Poilievre in power.
It could be that, but it could also be that Carney might have been a good reset on relations with Trump. And there are ways to deal with Trump, you just have to get to the ideas first before his handlers can tell Trump what to think. Also Melania and Ivanka probably aren’t going to lust over Carney.
