Eliott Dumoulin is a journalist who covers Canada for the French newspaper Le Monde. In this article, he tries to explain to readers back home what’s going on.
Eliott Dumoulin is a journalist who covers Canada for the French newspaper Le Monde. In this article, he tries to explain to readers back home what’s going on.
So many places to go after Danielle smith. Do we have to make her sex one of them? She is a horrible leader, a liar, traitorous, vacuous, purveyor of bullshit culture war, climate change denier, maga sycophant, incompetent shitforbrains, and worst of humanity
You can say a lot without mentioning her sex
He never mentioned her sex. Cunts are gender neutral.
Maybe is Australia. Next guys calls her a bitch. Just saying hate her cause she’s horrible. No need for misogyny
Don’t be a cunt
See? it’s entirely different when you call a guy a cunt vs when you call a woman a cunt. Because it’s not gender neutral
He didn’t even know if you were a woman or a man. You just made his point.
I’m trying to figure out if I’m having conversations with 14 yr old edgelords. Is his point that derogatory comments to women are cool, or that misogynistic terms are cool regardless who their aimed at? Are racially insensitive terms ok too?
Everywhere else in the world with the exception of prudish north america, “Cunt” is just a synonym for asshole; regardless of gender.
That may not be where the word started, but that’s where it currently is in modern usage.
Look, I don’t mean to antagonize you but you’re looking at it in a very American-centric (and quasi-chauvinistic) way.
In other countries the c-word doesn’t have the same connotation as in the US. You are assuming American culture, and its concepts, are universal. They’re not.
There’s nothing inherently wrong in the c-word and the n-word, but it’s the context where those words got to be used that made them so repugnant. Since the n-word was mostly a US thing, its taboo meaning passed over to all variants of English. The c-word though, was already used in other variants and didn’t have the same bad connotation it does in the US. So it kept being used in a different way.
Trying to force the American meaning on other English speakers comes, at best, as ignorant and, at worst, chauvinistic. I don’t think you have bad intentions since you clearly don’t understand how a word can have very different meanings in different cultures. But now you know.
I mean, it’s a Canadian sub talking about Canadian politicians. It may be different if we were talking about Aussie politics. I’ve been to Australia, lived in nz for a year, I’ve used the term with buddies pretty often.
It is different when you’re speaking about a woman in power (awful woman in power) and take all her horrid aspects and boil them down to a demeaning misogynist term. There are a million different insults that can be thrust upon her. Why does it have to be one that means vagina. Whether it’s been appropriated or not by other cultures, here in Canada it is misogynistic and is interpreted so by nearly every woman here
now you want to start calling people “edgelords” lol. maybe it’s time to look at your own embarrassing, disgraceful behaviour and consider the possibility that you’re a gigantic flapping twat
Interesting. Do you have any insults that don’t include female anatomy?
No it’s not. Maybe to you but that’s more a ‘you’.
Gotta say I’m kinda shocked at the amount of people adamant that they’re right to call women cunts. Do you also fight for your right to drop nbombs or other racial slurs, or is it just women were allowed to slander? If cunt and bitch are ok, can we also call them whores and sluts? Is there a line we don’t cross?
Please explain as it seems I’m too stupid to understand the nuance here
It’s just not as deep as you’re making it out to be. He called her a cunt because she is siding with Trump. Her gender has nothing to do with it.
The focus here is Danielle Smith has refused to condemn Trumps actions, grow up.
Is it derogatory or misandry to call a male a prick, knob, cock, or dick? its the same thing as calling a female a cunt.
People just like to act like special snowflakes. Fuck em all
White lives matter?
We’re just being egalitarian. Cunt is not gender specific as anyone can be a cunt, even animals. Nbombs and racial slurs aren’t remotely the same so not sure why you’d bring that up. Maybe it is because you are too stupid to understand. I don’t know but the fact that you’re so sensitive about calling a woman a cunt is quite interesting. Bitch, Dick are both the same. I’ll use them how I want to.
From American heritage dictionary
noun The vulva. Used as a disparaging term for a woman. Used as a disparaging term for a person one dislikes or finds extremely disagreeable.
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This is hypocrisy unless you’re also this offended when someone calls another person a dick
Is it the same? Is calling a white person a cracker the same as calling a black person an nbomb?
I could. But she doesn’t deserve that kind of respect
I agree she doesn’t deserve respect. I guess my point is that it’s not just her that you’re hurting with misogynistic slurs, it’s also my daughter who gets hurt
I totally hear you. It is not my intention to hurt anyone else besides danis shitty feelings. I just dont have a problem getting in the mud with them to play their own game
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The word, as an insult, may be used predominantly to refer to either gender in some parts of the world, but in other parts it’s usually gender-specific. Both points of view – that it’s misogynistic and that it’s not – could be argued to be valid because we live in different cultures. That said, we’re a global audience here and so using this word across cultures becomes problematic.
Here in the USA, it’s still a mostly gendered word based in misogyny. People in the US claiming otherwise probably just don’t want to stop using the word as an insult and either don’t believe or care that it perpetuates misogyny in the US when used against women.
The claim in this thread that it’s matter-of-fact not misogynistic is untrue globally.