The country’s so-called political centre has licensed a new era of authoritarianism – to the AfD’s delight, says Hanno Hauenstein, a Berlin-based journalist
Lemmy, where I just posted in [email protected] that German police pulled over the bus I was on to demand everyone’s papers after crossing a Schengen border – was just removed by the moderator.
The post was removed because it was a post saying “the gestapo is back” with no backing, and it doesn’t seem to related to privacy. And “germany is no longer in schengen”? Yes it is, i’m not sure what you’re talking about.
do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious
i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i’m 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn’t register it in a database.
I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?
Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?
I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.
They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it)… they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement – even IDs issued by neighboring countries.
Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).
I always forget what a cesspool of racism and authoritarianism reddit has become.
I know that there is definitely organized Zionist and organized Russian and other far-right chills on reddit, but it seems they have been quite effective in getting many people to follow them blindly.
Abnormal human being’s comment gives you a good idea why this is ban worthy. Pandering to conspiracy/extremist even if unintentional must be avoided to preserve the community.
Maybe not just read articles that promote one narrative while leaving out essential information. The four protesters are accused of multiple things. Sure, they should be put on trial first and if guilty, get their punishment then be deported.
None of the protesters are accused of any particular acts of vandalism or the de-arrest at the university.
Instead, the deportation order cites the suspicion that they took part in a coordinated group action.
O’Brien, one of the Irish citizens, is the only one of the four whose deportation order included a charge – the accusation that he called a police officer a “fascist” – that has been brought before a criminal court in Berlin, where he was acquitted.
Buhlmann explicitly warned that the legal basis for revoking the three EU citizens’ freedom of movement was insufficient — and that deporting them would be unlawful.
To correct myself, it seems that two are accused of a criminal act: Insulting an officer. That’s… uh… The fuck?
Fun fact, posting a link to this article got me banned from the Germany subreddit:
welcome to lemmy :)
Lemmy, where I just posted in [email protected] that German police pulled over the bus I was on to demand everyone’s papers after crossing a Schengen border – was just removed by the moderator.
The post was removed because it was a post saying “the gestapo is back” with no backing, and it doesn’t seem to related to privacy. And “germany is no longer in schengen”? Yes it is, i’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Okay, that changes everything and it looks like he/she/they werent telling the full story.
do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious
i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i’m 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn’t register it in a database.
I understand your point, but why post it in a privacy sub?
I was going to say that too. Doesn’t seem like the right place to post it.
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There’s exactly one rule in this community, you broke it.
I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?
Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?
I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.
Getting ID’d when passing a border is not a privacy issue. You are trippin.
Also legally speaking, they cant just track you. What they are doing is just registering your entrance to the country on a central databank.
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There’s exactly one rule in this community, you broke it.
How could this possibly be unrelated to privacy?
They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it)… they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement – even IDs issued by neighboring countries.
Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).
Damn, really? Where’s the post?
Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/1jqljc8/germany_is_now_deporting_propalestine_eu_citizens/
I always forget what a cesspool of racism and authoritarianism reddit has become.
I know that there is definitely organized Zionist and organized Russian and other far-right chills on reddit, but it seems they have been quite effective in getting many people to follow them blindly.
Yeah you can really feel the brigading any time you post something even remotely pro-Palestine or anti-Israel over there.
Sounds like an appropriate response.
Abnormal human being’s comment gives you a good idea why this is ban worthy. Pandering to conspiracy/extremist even if unintentional must be avoided to preserve the community.
What conspiracy? This is literally a thing that happened.
The conspiracy is that they are only being deported for protest when they have been arrested for a number of crimes.
I don’t agree with the part about deportation without going through the courts first though.
The shit? No they’re not. Some other people in the same protest committed these crimes; these protesters aren’t accused of any criminal acts.
Maybe not just read articles that promote one narrative while leaving out essential information. The four protesters are accused of multiple things. Sure, they should be put on trial first and if guilty, get their punishment then be deported.
Sigh.
To correct myself, it seems that two are accused of a criminal act: Insulting an officer. That’s… uh… The fuck?
Insult is a crime in Germany regardless who you insult. It’s Germany, not the US. You can’t just harass people here, regardless of their status.
It alone wouldnt warrant deportation. However the article is still missing information I find in German language articles.
Also I support the “enforced politeness” but find that the fines are a bit excessive. Should rather be treated like a traffic infraction instead
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