This is just a question. Are there people here that really believe communism is better than capitalism? If so can you explain to me why and can you give me an example of A communist country that has prospered
It’s logscale. You can tell by the height of oligarchy.
Oh good I was remembering that video but couldn’t find it.
Two edits: the capitalism exponential curve should be much sharper.
And the Trump graph maybe should have an “El Salvador prison” section on the left side.
To scale, the 2nd and 3rd graphs would look identical
Yup, better said.
They would if Trump and Musk weren’t erasing the wealth.
As in both have nothing left of the oligarchs
Yeah that capitalism curve needs to start at 0 and stay there for a bit
Until the 80% percentile if I recall. Not at 0 but under the poverty line.
It really should use a vertical line from 0 to 5 as a way to represent the welfare cliff, too.
Maybe the
xy axis is logarithmic?
Well, that’s a grim way to look at it what with the oligarch chunk being immutable.
A weirdly marxist grim way to look at it, though, I’ll give it that.
Just because the core of his work is bad science, it doesn’t mean he didn’t get a lot of facts right.
And also, countries have a unsettling tendency of moving a full step in development when its people get mad enough and kill all of the oligarchy. It’s not very clear to me if it’s the only way to do some steps forward, but it also has a good chance of making a worse oligarchy and moving a step backward.
If every company would transition successfully towards a worker cooperative federation like Mondragon in Spain, oligarchs wouldnt exist
(enlighten me and my ignorance please, always eager to get new insight. especially on topics like these, that arent my main focus)
Mondragon was founded by a humanist and ingrained the company with a set of core virtues. I think most companies wouldn’t be able to transition so radically.
I learned about Mondragon from your comment, they seem to do great work! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
Survival of the fittest, I wouldn’t mind tossee them lose fat with given head up of transitioning deadlines.
Aren’t adaptability and all those buzz words what corpos mafias always brag about :D
If society would see that as the goal of every company and to do so in a way that doesn’t discourage investment I suspect things might be better ovv
Not entirely sure how to interpret OP’s libel of communism, but the scales have been an astronomical cliff by a looong time.
You know what you must do “conservatives.” Time to reclaim your rights to bear arms.
libel of communism
As a leftist, I mean, they’re not wrong. At least historically.
That doesn’t mean socialist policies aren’t better, it doesn’t mean communism is literally impossible, it just means that our species has a lot of work ahead still. Planting trees we will never sit in the shade of and all that.
Not in Chile. Either way, I can’t interpret OP’s graph, since communism doesn’t have wealth to begin with.
And that idiom needs to die. We are not surviving a sahara, tree exist right now. We just need to guillotine the plutos at the top.
As a leftist you should understand that it’s insincere to compare implementations of communism to the core inextricable functions of capitalism. Bad implementations of communism have wealth disparity, all implementations of capitalism have wealth disparity.
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