Yeah, I get that. Maybe I inched over too much into the territory of being blaming people for having the understandable reaction. I was sort of hoping for my comments to come across as educational, along the lines of “I know why you react this way and I understand it but have you ever considered…”
I think a lot of the time it stems from people just not having thought it through or not being aware of these issues. But, at the same time, I have had this conversation before more than once and almost universally the reaction is people sort of yelling about it. More or less “IDGAF, I just want what I want and I’m going to whine if anything’s more complicated than me just getting what I want.” Which… that’s not going to lead in a good direction. Especially in terms of punishing news sites if they’re not willing to run unsustainable businesses to give them what they want. Which is why I’m a little more pointed or more insulting about it. But no, it’s not intended from any place other than just sharing my POV on it. Maybe I am too abrasive about it as I am in some other things.
And yes, I fully expected to get downvoted for it. I understand it’s not a popular POV. I’m just saying it for people who are open to it, and also so the people who are not can get exposed to the POV whether or not they absorb it. No one’s really required to agree with me. Just stating what my unpopular opinion is on it, that’s all. I apprecate the other side, too, absolutely, it’s understandable.
Yeah, and also the piracy mindset is quite strong on Lemmy.:-)
You are right: if we do not encourage journalism, then we’ll lose it. Though OTOH that doesn’t excuse the behavior of clickbait media offering something (usually/especially a title) that sounds one way, then when you read the article it ends up being a nothing-burger - so I can understand the piracy mindset as well, for the EXTREMELY rare cases when you might actually want to read something from such a source, and offer that corporate entity precisely the same consideration that they have previously offered to humans.
And too standards change all the time so that a source that used to have like a REPUTATION goes downhill, so there too I can see people not wanting to pay.
But as the Greek stoics taught: we cannot control the entire world, only our responses to it. Like you could post a link not to the article but rather to the RSS, which would sorta make things worse, but allows for an opportunity to put a disclaimer (in advance) that solid journalism needs funding to survive, so if someone enjoys the article then consider paying the source? Well, now it sounds like I’m just trying to tell you what to do here, but I was just trying to find an example of a potential other way that might leave you less frustrated and happier with your experiences on the Fediverse:-).
Your contributions are appreciated… by some (most?) of us at least.👍😁
Yeah, I get that. Maybe I inched over too much into the territory of being blaming people for having the understandable reaction. I was sort of hoping for my comments to come across as educational, along the lines of “I know why you react this way and I understand it but have you ever considered…”
I think a lot of the time it stems from people just not having thought it through or not being aware of these issues. But, at the same time, I have had this conversation before more than once and almost universally the reaction is people sort of yelling about it. More or less “IDGAF, I just want what I want and I’m going to whine if anything’s more complicated than me just getting what I want.” Which… that’s not going to lead in a good direction. Especially in terms of punishing news sites if they’re not willing to run unsustainable businesses to give them what they want. Which is why I’m a little more pointed or more insulting about it. But no, it’s not intended from any place other than just sharing my POV on it. Maybe I am too abrasive about it as I am in some other things.
And yes, I fully expected to get downvoted for it. I understand it’s not a popular POV. I’m just saying it for people who are open to it, and also so the people who are not can get exposed to the POV whether or not they absorb it. No one’s really required to agree with me. Just stating what my unpopular opinion is on it, that’s all. I apprecate the other side, too, absolutely, it’s understandable.
Yeah, and also the piracy mindset is quite strong on Lemmy.:-)
You are right: if we do not encourage journalism, then we’ll lose it. Though OTOH that doesn’t excuse the behavior of clickbait media offering something (usually/especially a title) that sounds one way, then when you read the article it ends up being a nothing-burger - so I can understand the piracy mindset as well, for the EXTREMELY rare cases when you might actually want to read something from such a source, and offer that corporate entity precisely the same consideration that they have previously offered to humans.
And too standards change all the time so that a source that used to have like a REPUTATION goes downhill, so there too I can see people not wanting to pay.
But as the Greek stoics taught: we cannot control the entire world, only our responses to it. Like you could post a link not to the article but rather to the RSS, which would sorta make things worse, but allows for an opportunity to put a disclaimer (in advance) that solid journalism needs funding to survive, so if someone enjoys the article then consider paying the source? Well, now it sounds like I’m just trying to tell you what to do here, but I was just trying to find an example of a potential other way that might leave you less frustrated and happier with your experiences on the Fediverse:-).
Your contributions are appreciated… by some (most?) of us at least.👍😁