That doesn’t make it untrue. Democrats focused on this issue are missing the reason they lost the election. If they want to win then they need to understand better.
Half of your country are racist under-educated bullies but you decide to blame the other half lol. Your entire country is a threat to the survival of the specie, please just self-destruct.
You have to appeal to voters in a democracy. That’s just how it works. You’re not wrong but what’s actionable from this? A sense of moral superiority won’t help you much in the gulag.
I would recommend basing your understanding on actual polling data and not largely unrelated anecdotes like this. Did those people vote? Who did they vote for? How many of them ever vote under the best circumstances? This anecdote fails on multiple levels to support the idea that Harris lost due to people like those on Hexbear.
Now we agree that this isn’t a good thing. But I think it’s a separate and much smaller problem than the fact that a plurality of voters chose Donald Trump to be president. That and understanding why is the real issue regarding the election.
Admittedly I think the disinformation engine is maybe more at play than democrats themselves but they certainly deserve a fair share of the blame for not appealing to voters.
I would recommend basing your understanding on actual polling data and not largely unrelated anecdotes like this.
It is a half-remembered poll that I don’t feel like looking for at the moment, but I am talking about a poll. Don’t remember how old it was.
Did those people vote? Who did they vote for? How many of them ever vote under the best circumstances? This anecdote fails on multiple levels to support the idea that Harris lost due to people like those on Hexbear.
I mean, I feel like those three questions are intimately related to whether someone is like those on Hexbear. Or vice-versa. The point being that being the kind of person who’s on Hexbear will deliver answers to those three questions which are not helpful in preventing fascism.
Now we agree that this isn’t a good thing. But I think it’s a separate and much smaller problem than the fact that a plurality of voters chose Donald Trump to be president. That and understanding why is the real issue regarding the election.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was given the power to change one factor of the 2024 election, “Make the shittiest socialists in the US vote for Harris” would be pretty low on my list of solutions. Last resort sort of attempt. It’s more demonstrative that an immense number of factors were in play, any one of which could’ve led to a different outcome. The 2024 election was not simply a failure of this issue or that - it was a massive, (un)coordinated failure of an incredibly broad selection of American society to do the bare minimum to prevent fascism.
The Dem Party itself, of course, bears the biggest share of the blame (after the actual fascists and their voters), but all I’m saying is that even only one of these smaller factors would’ve changed the course of the election. And every one of those smaller factors bears a piece of the blame, for having the ability to prevent this scenario, and refusing to act.
I’m pretty sure a tiny number of terminally online socialists had virtually zero effect on the election.
I’m pretty sure that also what everyone who doesn’t vote says.
That doesn’t make it untrue. Democrats focused on this issue are missing the reason they lost the election. If they want to win then they need to understand better.
Half of your country are racist under-educated bullies but you decide to blame the other half lol. Your entire country is a threat to the survival of the specie, please just self-destruct.
Country of India burned by this comment.
You have to appeal to voters in a democracy. That’s just how it works. You’re not wrong but what’s actionable from this? A sense of moral superiority won’t help you much in the gulag.
Something like 10% of young Americans view Stalin as a hero.
A 10% swing in the youth vote could very easily have saved us from this scenario.
I would recommend basing your understanding on actual polling data and not largely unrelated anecdotes like this. Did those people vote? Who did they vote for? How many of them ever vote under the best circumstances? This anecdote fails on multiple levels to support the idea that Harris lost due to people like those on Hexbear.
Now we agree that this isn’t a good thing. But I think it’s a separate and much smaller problem than the fact that a plurality of voters chose Donald Trump to be president. That and understanding why is the real issue regarding the election.
Admittedly I think the disinformation engine is maybe more at play than democrats themselves but they certainly deserve a fair share of the blame for not appealing to voters.
It is a half-remembered poll that I don’t feel like looking for at the moment, but I am talking about a poll. Don’t remember how old it was.
I mean, I feel like those three questions are intimately related to whether someone is like those on Hexbear. Or vice-versa. The point being that being the kind of person who’s on Hexbear will deliver answers to those three questions which are not helpful in preventing fascism.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was given the power to change one factor of the 2024 election, “Make the shittiest socialists in the US vote for Harris” would be pretty low on my list of solutions. Last resort sort of attempt. It’s more demonstrative that an immense number of factors were in play, any one of which could’ve led to a different outcome. The 2024 election was not simply a failure of this issue or that - it was a massive, (un)coordinated failure of an incredibly broad selection of American society to do the bare minimum to prevent fascism.
The Dem Party itself, of course, bears the biggest share of the blame (after the actual fascists and their voters), but all I’m saying is that even only one of these smaller factors would’ve changed the course of the election. And every one of those smaller factors bears a piece of the blame, for having the ability to prevent this scenario, and refusing to act.