Israeli soccer fans attacked in Amsterdam, with 5 hospitalized and dozens of suspects arrested
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Israeli and Dutch leaders have condemned a mass attack on Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam as clear and violent antisemitism.

Antisemitic rioters “actively sought out Israeli supporters to attack and assault them” after a soccer match in Amsterdam, authorities in the Netherlands said Friday, with police reporting five people hospitalized and 62 detained after a night of violence

  • fukhueson@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Which gives the attackers license to be physically violent against those they disagree with?

    Odd double standard.

    https://apnews.com/article/maccabi-tel-aviv-amsterdam-violence-protests-palestinian-bcea212281f682098c4c77ef552af5f1

    Israeli fans were assaulted after a soccer game in Amsterdam by hordes of young people apparently riled up by calls on social media to target Jewish people, Dutch authorities said Friday. Five people were treated for injuries at hospitals and dozens were arrested.

    Tensions had been mounting in the Dutch capital over Israel’s campaigns in Gaza and Lebanon, even before Thursday night’s Europa League match between Ajax and Maccabi Tel Aviv. Amsterdam authorities banned a planned pro-Palestinian demonstration near the stadium, and video showed a large crowd of Israeli fans chanting anti-Arab slogans en route to the game.

    Afterwards, youths on scooters and on foot crisscrossed the city in search of Israeli fans, punching and kicking them and then fleeing quickly to evade police, Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said.

    In Telegram groups, she added, “there is talk of people going on a Jew hunt. That is so shocking and so despicable that I still cannot fathom it.”

    • MyEdgyAlt@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      There’s a difference between antisemitism, which gets mentioned in both blurbs at the top of this OP, and anti-Israelism. I will resist any attempts to conflate the two. Hunting down violent instigators, and nationalists from apartheid states is different from attacking religious minorities for their religion.

      Attacking Israeli nationalists has to be discussed in a similar context to other forms of violence which are ugly and may or may not be ethical.

      • fukhueson@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Afterwards, youths on scooters and on foot crisscrossed the city in search of Israeli fans, punching and kicking them and then fleeing quickly to evade police, Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said.

        In Telegram groups, she added, “there is talk of people going on a Jew hunt. That is so shocking and so despicable that I still cannot fathom it.”

        Antisemitism. End of discussion. There is no argument that makes this ok. I refuse to engage with anyone furthering the idea that there’s any good reason to physically attack these people. Additionally, it is objectively false that antisemitism is confined to attacking religious people for their religion. That is a lie, and it is insanely dangerous to further that sentiment.

        https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/

        Have a good day!

        • MyEdgyAlt@sh.itjust.works
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          8 days ago

          There is talk of a lot of things. Did she provide sources, or is it like Trump’s “people are saying…”?

          You’re correct that the US has adopted a terrible definition of antisemitism that conflates the state of Israel and the actions of its genocidal apartheid government with Judaism.

          Someone recently shared the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism with me, which I find to be a much more reasonable definition of antisemitism.

          • belastend@slrpnk.net
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            5 days ago

            To preface this: Maccabi Hooligan can fick themselves.

            But why the fuck do we paint this as “the brave people of europe do not tolerate apartheit” when people were yelling “Cancer jew” and other shit? Why the fuck do people assume that the VERY prevalent antisemitism in Europe suddenly morphed in to nuanced antizionism now that Israel is openly committing a genocide?

            No, both sides of this attack can fuck themselves. Fuck Maccabi fans for shouting genocidal shit, smashing cars and attacking arabs and fuck the attackers for ambushing people, headkicking them while they are downed, stabbing them and applying this treatment to anyone wearing maccabi colors.

          • fukhueson@lemmy.world
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            8 days ago

            Which makes no mention of confining it to religion, it supports exactly what I’ve said.

            Who does the definition cover?

            The definition applies whether Jewish identity is understood as ethnic, biological, religious, cultural, etc. It also applies in cases where a non-Jewish person or institution is either mistaken for being Jewish (“discrimination by perception”) or targeted on account of a connection to Jews (“discrimination by association”).

            Thank you for confirming that, and no, I’ve said nothing about how the us definition is terrible.

            The article and mayor are objectively correct in denouncing the antisemitism. Those are the facts, and that’s it. To suggest the article or mayor is lying to further your argument is misinformation.

            I will not entertain any further argument from you in this regard. The facts are against you.