• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    Dishonest interlocutor,

    Only a racist and bigot would attempt to justify harm to someone on the basis of their nationality, or race, or immigrant status by using the crimes of another.

    Enjoy this list of murder victims for which you are not held to account, yet enjoy the same immigration status of their killer:

    • Lynda Ann Healy
    • Georgann Hawkins
    • Janice Ott
    • Denise Naslund
    • Kimberly Leach
    • Timothy McCoy
    • John Butkovitch
    • Robert Piest
    • Steven Hicks
    • Anthony Sears
    • Konerak Sinthasomphone
    • Clementa Pinckney
    • Cynthia Hurd
    • Sharonda Coleman-Singleton
    • Tywanza Sanders
    • Myra Thompson
    • Baylee Almon
    • Chase Smith
    • Michael Fortier Jr.
    • Lauren Townsend
    • Cassie Bernall
    • Rachel Scott
    • Daniel Mauser
    • Jessica Ghawi
    • Veronica Moser-Sullivan (6 years old)
    • Alison Parker
    • Adam Ward
    • Nicole Brown Simpson
    • Ron Goldman
    • Gabby Petito
    • Laci Peterson
    • Shanann Watts
    • Bella Watts (4 years old)
    • Celeste Watts (3 years old)
    • Catherine Kraus
    • Benjamin Larson
    • Jack Pinto (6 years old)
    • Noah Pozner (6 years old)
    • Avielle Richman (6 years old)
    • Ana Márquez-Greene (6 years old)
    • Alaina Petty
    • Jaime Guttenberg
    • Meadow Pollack
    • Helena Ramsay
    • Joaquin Oliver
    • Alyssa Alhadeff
    • Gina Montalto
    • Nicholas Dworet
    • Carmen Schentrup
    • Chris Hixon
    • Aaron Feis
    • Scott Beigel
    • Sonny Melton
    • Heather Alvarado
    • Hannah Ahlers
    • Brennan Stewart
    • Carrie Parsons
    • Dorene Anderson
    • Angela Gomez
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      Hold up are you calling me a racist? Or are you saying that Trump is a racist? Because just to clarify I’m El Salvadoran. Also did you just name people that were murdered in America by Americans? Like Ted Bundy’s victims? Dude all over the world people from the same country kill people from their country That is nothing new. You’re saying because there’s American murderers that it makes it OK to also have an illegal immigrant murderers? Honestly I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make and quite frankly it’s pretty weird. Did you really say Ron Goldman the dude that Was banging OJ’s wife? lol. What the hell does this have to do with this conversation? You are literally the same people that say the jail in El Salvador is exactly like the holocaust, And do you understand how crazy that sounds comparing a jail that has literally people that have been found guilty for murder and rape to innocent Jewish people. Oh man

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        I called you dishonest. I said you committed the actions of a racist and bigot.

        The point i made is very simple. Every citizen does not have to account for the murders of their fellow citizen. Just as every immigrant does not have to account for the murders of their fellow immigrants. To make that assertion is racist and bigoted. I even explained how the people on the list were chosen.

        You also make assumptions about how i consider the prison. I don’t consider it “like the Holocaust” i consider it like a concentration camp. We shall see if they get around to mass executions.

        Also this prison may contain people who have committed murder and rape. But to assign that to everyone who is in there is a category error. In the case of the person we are talking about, there was no finding he committed any crime. In fact he was abducted and detained without trial, which means he is innocent, until proven otherwise. He was not even accused by the trump administration of murder or rape. He was accused of being in a gang after the fact without evidence.

        Statement: It’s good to have immigrants, it’s not good to have murderers.

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            Dishonest American interlocutor,

            When you cite a murder by ‘some illegal immigrant’ to justify the harm done to a completely unrelated, legally present individual, your justification does not discriminate. That’s collective punishment by nationality—by definition, bigoted and racist. I never called you those things; I called you dishonest. Your words speak for themselves.