I hate strategic voting and I’m holding my nose and voting for Carney anyway to keep Polievre out. I wish the NDP wasn’t such a mess. But I don’t want Canada to get into bed with the orange rapist.

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    You vote the system you have. FPTP necessitates strategic voting. Look at your riding, acknowledge reality, vote accordingly, and if you really care about making things better - talk to your MPs/MLAs frequently, regardless of who wins.

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      Yes, FPTP forces strategic voting - but we don’t have to accept this broken system! Our electoral system has changed before and can change again.

      Every time we resign ourselves to strategic voting, we perpetuate the very system that forces us to vote strategically. It’s a vicious cycle that only proportional representation can break.

      Want a democracy where your vote actually counts? Join us: simple things you can do to grow the proportional representation movement.

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        While I agree that Canada being one of 3 major democracies (4 if you count India) still using FPTP to everyone’s detriment, we’re talking about who leads Canada in 8 days.

        In a perfect world, PR decoupling MPs/MLAs from leadership is probably ideal for the times; give everyone a voice with fewer hostages to party zealots who are there only because their constituents only know the party leader’s name.

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      How can I easily check the poll results for my riding?

      Who I vote for entirely depends on what the poll results are, voting for a party that is entirely unpopular in my riding would throw away my vote, but if, say, NDP has a chance, I’ll vote for them.

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      So then my strategic voting is staying at home and not wasting my time. And don’t BS me with every vote matters my conservative candidate has a 99% chance of winning, the other candidates didn’t even bother putting up any signs.

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        Then it’s 98, then it’s 95, then it’s 75, then it’s 50. Shit changes, even Alberta voted in the NDP not that long ago. The trick is getting off your ass and spending the minimum amount of time to exercise your democratic right. Complacency is what got the US where it is today.

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        Not sure why you’re railing against this comment.

        An objection vote is advocating for literally anyone else (Green or PPC or whatever your views even), as well as attending town halls and talking with your MP/MLA.

        As an Albertan, putting MLAs on notice last election who usually enjoy a 5:1 spread eroded to 2:1 or 3:2; that kind of pivot definitely makes them uncomfortable, especially in the span of 4 years. These are metrics they closely pay attention to, as it determines whether they have a job next term. It’s also useful for “popular vote” metrics, and highlighting broken systems.

        As another commentor acknowledged, advocating for something beyond FPTP is also a good use of time - essentially the USA, Canada and the UK are the last meaningful holdouts.

        But it is your vote; voting is ultimately the minimum amount of effort someone can effectuate (they can mail it to you, and you use your favorite crayon to write a dozen letters). Absentee is (almost always) just a Conservative vote anyways, so accepting that is also a choice. Demonstrably, none of this is “BS.”