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    “I’m asking what your reasoning is beyond there being some racist episodes”

    no you are not.

    “so I have to resort to guessing”

    no you don’t, you can always ask directly rather than attempting to mislead the conversation and my reasoning first.

    “hiding the reasoning”

    my reasoning is very explicit, specific and publicly available above.

    you want to pretend it is not, that’s your problem.

    “the record straight.”

    my reasoning is very explicit, specific and publicly available above.

    your reading comprehension and fear of asking direct questions is your problem.

    “me of making false accusations without actually setting me correct.”

    this is the proper way to deal with leading questions based on fabrications.

    if you want to ask a serious, direct question, try it without fabricating beforehand and then asking leading questions.

    dare ya.

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      “I’m asking what your reasoning is beyond there being some racist episodes,”

      no you are not.

      This is literally a false accusation and a misinterpretation of my comment, literally what you are accusing me of. Plus, I literally asked you exactly what your reasoning is:

      Is your complaint that the existence of some racist Bugs Bunny episodes makes any usage of the Bugs Bunny character problematic?

      you can always be brave and ask directly

      Bro, is this not direct enough for you?

      I have been attempting over the course of this entire discussion to get you to clarify anything deeper than that, such as how you draw the connection between some episodes being racist and the entire character being inappropriate for any use

      Again you are dodging answering by throwing accusations instead of doing the charitable thing and just clarifying yourself.

      my reasoning is very explicit, specific and publicly available above

      Let me try to find your reasoning. Literally the last comment you made that has any substance was 6 comments ago:

      the racism and subsequent cultural insensitivity is explained very clearly

      bugs Bunny cartoons are historically, factually racist

      it sounds like you do understand that cartoon is racist

      that super racist cartoon

      So I see:

      1. Bugs bunny is racist and insensitive because some of the episodes are racist
      2. Therefore we should not use it

      I have re-read every comment you have made, including the 6 prior ones that provide no additional substance, and I see no mention of what your threshold is for determining that the entire character or cartoon is racist or how you reason that some episodes taints the entire franchise.

      your reading comprehension and fear of asking direct questions is your problem

      Do I really need to re-include again the list of very direct questions I’ve asked so far which you have been dodging?

      this is the proper way to deal with leading questions based on false fabrications

      I think your first mistake is assuming that a question is an accusation. Have you never heard of re-stating someone else’s opinion to ask if you understand it? You have some serious persecution complex if simply asking if your view is xyz based on my best attempt to read and understand your comments is viewed as an attack.

      if you want to ask a serious, direct question, try it

      Again, you completely ignored the serious and direct question I just asked:

      is your complaint that the existence of some racist Bugs Bunny episodes makes any usage of the Bugs Bunny character problematic?

      In case you need some reading comprehension help, this is what a question looks like.

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        “is this not direct enough”

        disclaiming a question with 20 paragraphs of fabrication and misattribution is not “direct enough”, no.

        “Let me try to find your reasoning.”

        sure, why not keep guessing instead of asking directly?

        working out well for you so far.

        “So I see…”

        you assume.

        “if simply asking if your view is xyz”

        you should try this!

        maybe without all the misleading disclaimers.

        good luck.

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          Third time’s the charm?

          is your complaint that the existence of some racist Bugs Bunny episodes makes any usage of the Bugs Bunny character problematic?

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            took you nine comments to get there, not three, but good work.

            “is your complaint…”

            nope, but that doesnt help.

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              Hmm well your lack of any substantive answer leaves me no option but to guess again - it’s definitely your imperative if you want to be intentionally obtuse though. You shouldn’t be surprised when people don’t receive you well.

              If the racist bugs bunny episodes isn’t what makes Bugs Bunny as a whole problematic to use in a meme, then what is the reason in the first place to complain that Bugs Bunny is racist and shouldn’t be used? Again I go back to the fact that the only things you have mentioned is the fact that it’s racist and that it shouldn’t be used. I’m still looking for an answer to how exactly the two are connected, if you’d be so kind to enlighten me :)

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                “no option but to guess again”

                you are incorrect again, you should just try asking.

                you got your first answer last time by asking a direct question.

                “shouldn’t be surprised”

                I’m definitely not surprised.

                “I go back to the fact that the only things you have mentioned is the fact that it’s racist and that it shouldn’t be used”

                not a fact, although not using a racist cartoon in favor of a not racist cartoon is certainly good reasoning.

                the full reasoning is explained above I think twice although I’m going check because it would be really - nope all the comments are still up there; for some reason you’re pretending not to see them.

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                  you should just try asking

                  Do you not have eyes?

                  you got your first answer last time by asking a direct question

                  I asked that exact question 3 times, and it’s structurally identical to every other time I asked “so is xyz the problem that you have with using this cartoon?”, so either you just forgot to have a stick up your ass about how people ask questions or you’re just being difficult.

                  for some reason you’re pretending not to see them.

                  I literally quoted every time you said something about your thoughts on this issue, but you already handwaved that away with:

                  sure, why not keep guessing instead of asking directly

                  What do you want me to do? Look at your previous messages? I did and you accused me of guessing.

                  Please, let me know whether I’ve missed a relevant comment that you made that clarifies this:

                  the racism and subsequent cultural insensitivity is explained very clearly
                  
                  bugs Bunny cartoons are historically, factually racist
                  
                  it sounds like you do understand that cartoon is racist
                  
                  that super racist cartoon
                  
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                    “Do you not have eyes?”

                    i do, I told you I just made sure the reasoning was still written out and publicly available, which it is.

                    “structurally identical…”

                    wow, your structures are identical with or without 20 disclaiming paragraphs of misattribution.

                    no wonder you have such difficulty asking direct questions.

                    “literally quoted every time you”

                    you certainly haven’t.

                    " and you accused me of guessing. "

                    nobody “accused” you, you said “i have to guess”.

                    and then you guessed.

                    I pointed out that there is no point in guessing when you can ask direct questions.