It made me wonder, hearing from certain people who faced discrimination and harassment. They were hurt every single day intentionally and some of them had PTSD caused by their harm and became incredibly jumpy and traumatized.

Would that make the person who caused the harm evil?

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    I have a parent who will intentionally set his children up against each other to make them dislike each other. Why? Because he finds it entertaining.

    He would take or break something you had, and blame one of the other siblings. When he got called out for it, he’d threaten with a beating. Physical abuse happened, but not nearly as often as psychological. And it was all so he could gain trust, power or just be entertained.

    To me, that’s an evil person. Intentionally hurting others and taking joy from it, is pretty bad. But it’s a whole new level of evil when it’s your kids.

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      This is a great way to frame this. To put this thinking into an example, most people who are abusive toward others have themselves been victims of abuse earlier in their lives and are reenacting patterns they were taught. I think those people deserve compassion and understanding

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    Suffering is bad, and the intentional or neglient creation of suffering is evil.

    Those that have created suffering have done evil, and those that are currently creating suffering, or plan to create suffering are evil. The larger the suffering, the greater the evil.

    Those that have done evil, but are no longer willing to do evil are not evil.

    In the end, evil is a simplification that allows us to take power from those that want to create suffering without needing to know what exactly they are doing or planning.

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    Not ontologically so. People are made evil by latching themselves onto systems that unperson others. That’s not to say they’re ever entitled to receive the respect of those they’ve victimised, or that anyone should shed any tears over their stock portfolio cratering

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    Too vague of a description. I would need a more detailed explanation on what happened to define someone as evil.

    As some people may perceive things certain way and other people may perceive them other way.

    Even when trauma is implied, I have seem people create their own trauma and blame it on others.

    So, there’s that. I would need more information before calling anyone evil or good.

    If given all info I could conclude that the person purposely or by negligence of a responsibility caused harm to other person then yes, they would be evil.

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    The act is defenetly evil Not yet have i met a person that abuse, manipulate and/or cause trauma and didnt do it on purpose

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    To me, it seems that trauma is an essential tool to build our civilization. Trauma allows people to identify with trauma in other people, or situations in general. People without trauma see other people suffering and feel bad for them, but they cannot identify with them.

    This is important for civilization because the processes of society have to be understood and sometimes have to be healed which requires that some people can identify with the problems.

    So to have civilization, there needs to be a constant stream of trauma to have enough people who can show the problems so that we can fix the problems of society.

    It’s a bit circular that there are problems to fix problems.

    Is it evil to cause that system of trauma? That depends on the answer of is it good to have civilization?

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    I can’t think of a more reasonable definition of an evil person than a person who does a lot of evil.

    Usually people have some kind of way of justifying an action to themselves, and there’s always a story that lead up to it. Everyone I’ve gotten to know well is part of one problem or another.

    So, It’s not very interesting to ask where to draw the line, and even less useful. The important thing is what to do about it.