• FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 day ago

    Women didn’t fail men

    Men failed men.

    The power imbalance has traditionally been enforced through violence.

    Violent control over women is still all too prevalent, but as it slowly becomes a unacceptable in society, the losers who relied on it are discovering that they’re reprehensible pieces of shit who deserve to be alone and lonely

    Guys aren’t lonely because they’re misunderstood, they’re lonely because they are dangerous to women, and they’re actually dangerous to men too, just not obviously

    This take on things is also very American. There are almost four billion guys in the world who are lucky enough not to have the stupid yank bullshit to endure

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      24 hours ago

      I know you didn’t say this, but men aren’t a monolith. Young men aren’t responsible for their own upbringing or the society that they’ve co-inherited. They’re only responsible for how they react to it.

      Simplifications like “you’ve all failed yourselves” is reductionist and not helpful, even if it were to be technically correct.

      IMO, it’s all of our (societies’) responsibility to create opportunities for young men to express their fears and frustrations in a non-judgemental and constructive environment.

      That means accepting and acknowledging the reality of the situation and how it might be emotionally challenging for them to deal with, and offering active listening and empathetic advice where warranted.

      This issue isn’t unique to America, BTW. Look at SK and Japan for particularly advanced cases of this problem.

    • dermanus@lemmy.ca
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      19 hours ago

      Women didn’t fail men

      Men failed men.

      How about society failed men? You act like women are not participants in culture or upbringing.

      This isn’t a case where one gender bears the responsibility, and it’s telling that your first reaction is to push blame away from women rather than genuinely confront an issue.

      Violent control over women is still all too prevalent, but as it slowly becomes a unacceptable in society, the losers who relied on it are discovering that they’re reprehensible pieces of shit who deserve to be alone and lonely

      So the reason boys are lagging behind girls in primary school is because the six year old boys are reprehensible pieces of shit? I doubt you actually believe that.

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      Yeah! Most of us have other stupid bullshit to endure.

      Though seriously, most don’t deserve to be alone. Most were dealt a shit hand, with no positive examples of masculinity, and simply don’t know better. Giving an alternative to the toxic patriarchical paradigm is essentially this community’s mission.

    • gregs_gumption@lemm.ee
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      20 hours ago

      This take on things is also very American.

      Yeah because it’s still socially acceptable to control women with violence for most of those 4 billion guys.