• optional@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    People have survived millions of years without refrigerators. Most products don’t get bad in a few hours just because they’re kept at 8° instead of 6°. Granted, there’s some stuff you want to be careful with, like raw poultry and minced meat, but neither the pasteurized milk nor the cured sausage will go bad in just a few hours, even at room temperature. Even if they would, you’d usually see, smell and taste it.

    If it was as bad as you say, millions of pupils would die each summer from food poisoning because of the sandwich they carry unrefrigerated with them the whole morning until the lunch break. The temperature in an average teenagers backpack is much higher than that in a refrigerator that has been off for a few hours.

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        10 days ago

        Not sure if you believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old, or you’re trying to say that all people that lived 150 years ago are dead by now, but humankind has been roaming this planet for more than two million years without refrigerators.

        And quite successfully, if you consider that they conquered all continents without refrigerators, except the one where you really don’t need a fridge.

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            9 days ago

            I never said that you are homo erectus. That doesn’t change the fact that homo erectus were humans. And even if you really stick to the believe that humankind only started with homo sapiens some 20000 years ago, it doesn’t matter for the argument that people have survived a long time without being able to keep their food at a constant 4°C.

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                8 days ago

                It seems I’m not too good with numbers 😔 But it really doesn’t matter if it’s been 20k, 200k or 2M years, the point is, that it’s been a long time.

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          I am not the person you replied to but I believe they were referring to Homo sapiens being said to have emerged roughly 2-300k years ago, so 0.3 million, not “millions” (plural). Homo the genus might be a mil or two, but not the species, although you said “humankind” thus implying the species.

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            Maybe it’s just lost in translation. In my native language we’d call homo erectus etc. (primal) humans, so for me they are part of the humankind although they’re not modern humans.

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              9 days ago

              I don’t know what I expected when I started scrolling through comments, but I certainly didn’t expect "how long humanity has survived depends on how you define ‘people’ "

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              9 days ago

              You are correct. The word “homo” literally means human.

              Homo sapiens are the only living humans, but Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Homo Neanderthalus are all humans also.

              However we usually use the term “archaic human” or even change human to “hominid” to prevent confusion between “modern humans”.

              You weren’t wrong, but this is a kind of jargon which can confuse people.