Summary
Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.
The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.
The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.
Sigh. This is not and is never the answer.
I’m not sure why this generation is so gung-ho to sell itself out.
I’m not quite onboard with your “punishing men” rhetoric later in the thread, but here I agree
Like, how many attempts are now undertaken to pitch men and women against one another or otherwise separate them, and how far can this rabbit hole go?
Men are growing wary of women - and everyone’s cheering as MGTOW raises heads again. Women are getting increasingly defensive - and breed fear and loathing, as crowds cheer again. Both play off each other to show how much the other side sucks.
One is only seen as friendly if they support this division; anyone trying to bridge it is seen as a bad actor.
Stop it. Fuck 4B. Fuck MGTOW. Fuck that conservative dude who thinks they have a right for a woman’s body. Fuck those who put all men into sexual offenders category. Let common sense, love, and responsibility to each other prevail. Go outside and protest gerontocrats trying to take women’s right for their own body. Allow and encourage men to stand alongside and be part of the fight against forces many of them didn’t choose. Never put all people in one basket, and fight your true enemy.
Women: “No sex, dating, sex, or kids until men learn to act right”
John (35yo & single): “Noooooo! It’s not faaaaaair! Who will touch my peepee!?”
Why would they stop? It’s clearly working!
Jim (40yo & married): “this is dumb and obviously just another ploy to turn people against each other”
Lemmy: “anyone who thinks this is stupid is an unfuckable neckbeard rapist!”
Have fun not-fucking the best years of your life away while you get played by the latest payop.
Wonder what the “thing” we’re all enraged about will be next month.
Eh, hookers are cheaper than a house I’ll get taken from me in 10 years because you got “bored”. Thanks for doing the world a favor!
What?
You have to be a special kind of stupid to advocate for punishing men because Trump won.
Sane people should not let this interfere with them starting a family. I guess that’s why you can’t understand my point.
Also gonna block you, it’s clear you’re too far gone from these forums.
If women aren’t having sex with you, it isn’t a punishment. Nobody owes you sex.
If you want it, earn it. Don’t be an incel.
You I have to be a special kind of stupid to miss the point of this movement so extremely. These women don’t want to start families until they feel they have control and safety over their own bodies. Fuck off, facist.
What? Women don’t want to start families until they can be sure they can get an abortion? And you speak for all of them on the matter?
Lol. I think you’re too far gone, buddy.
I think you ate a lot of lead paint as a child. Maybe even as an adult, too.
Yeah, that’s about the response I would expect from someone like you.
Gonna block you now. You need to spend less time on these forums to fix your worldview.
Yellow-bellied coward. Come back here! Fight me on the internet so that i can feel like a big man!!
The movement is great; this thread did connect it to the start of Idiocracy for me though. Smart people having less kids and dumb people breeding like rabbits. I fear this movement has all the potential of limiting the left from reproducing while the right keeps right on going. Gives one pause.
So what, our only option is for people capable of pregnancy to shit out kids to outnumber facists?
Not at all what I suggested. I also believe that this is a good movement. But sometimes there are other side effects.
The reality is many right leaning folks follow religious beliefs that encourage large families and discourage birth control, so be default they do “shit out more kids than the other side” and thus that is why the status Quo for the right was preserved for so many generations, arguably right up until WW2 and the information age when knowledge turned the tide. And the right knows knowledge turned the tide, hence why a large part of Project 2025 is about crippling the education system.
I believe we need to have less kids to reduce population and practice degrowth, frankly. I believe MAGA idiots and any man that voted for Trump do deserve this cock block. I am just also seeing where this may backslide. It’s good to keep looking at all possibilities.
Bold of you to assume that someone was touching my peepee before all those craziness
Hookers are cheaper than a house man. Save yourself the drama.