On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR “apology” (ironic)

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    Base what on? The countless stories of transgender (and cis misgendered) people being harassed in and around bathrooms?

    The understanding based on real world experience that many transgender people pass as their gender, and therefore are clearly out of place in bathrooms meant for the gender that was assigned to them at birth?

    The executive orders attempting to erase the recognition of transgender people entirely and require them to have the same gender listed on their passport as they did on their birth certificate? The State Department not returning or renewing passports for transgender people?

    also i’m not sure if slavery and lynching are the same as being denied a bathroom.

    How many times does this need to be said? How many times do majorities need to fucking hear this about minorities?

    We’re not playing the “who has it worse” game because everyone loses.

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      I mean you’re kinda making a blanket statement, I can’t really work with ‘countless stories’ – Can ya specify?

      And please, don’t hold me accountable for making the comparison. I never made the comparison, perhaps you should tell the above user

      We’re not playing the “who has it worse” game because everyone loses.

      And also, I’m not a majority. I’m a minority as well.

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        I mean you’re kinda making a blanket statement, I can’t really work with ‘countless stories’ – can ya specify?

        Here you go. Please see… oh, pretty much any result. Throw a dart if you like. I don’t need to specify, because frankly if you somehow missed every last news story, social media post, or just the constantly escalating hateful rhetoric against them, then you absolutely shouldn’t be fucking talking about it.

        I never made the comparison, perhaps you should tell the above user

        No, you made the contrast. You were the one that suggested that one situation is oppression and the other is not.

        And also, I’m not a majority. I’m a minority as well.

        If you’re cisgender, you’re the majority to their minority. You are a majority to them, playing the “who has it worse” game, where again, everyone loses.

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          Here you go. Please see… oh, pretty much any result. Throw a dart if you like. I don’t need to specify, because frankly if you somehow missed every last news story, social media post, or just the constantly escalating hateful rhetoric against them, then you absolutely shouldn’t be fucking talking about it.

          Seems to be only in the US and biased articles. I can’t anything about other countries.

          If you’re cisgender, you’re the majority to their minority. You are a majority to them, playing the “who has it worse” game, where again, everyone loses.

          I hope you see the irony in this lol

          tho, I am curious, why not just use unisex bathrooms? Wouldn’t that be a solution everyone can get behind?

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            A lot of people didn’t see a problem with segregating water fountains by race, either.

            also i’m not sure if slavery and lynching are the same as being denied a bathroom.

            Seems to be only in the US and biased articles. I can’t anything about other countries.

            Where exactly did you think we were talking about? What kind of bad faith shit is this?

            And biased articles? My god. Biased against what? Transphobia? What about the edu articles? The research papers? Do you need assistance operating the search engine?

            I’m sorry, could you explain the irony? Do you think oppressed minorities can’t also be oppressors? That they can’t be misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, or just good-old-fashioned racists themselves?

            tho, I am curious, why not just use unisex bathrooms? Wouldn’t that be a solution everyone can get behind

            Unisex bathrooms are a solution that almost everyone transgender or ally gets behind. But they don’t currently exist in most places that need more than two toilets in the building. I should clarify, because apparently I need to - we’re talking about the United States.

            And, by the way, “maybe they should just have a separate place to go to the bathroom”?

            Sound familiar? Does it sound like segregation? Because it is. They should be able to use the bathroom for their gender without being fucking harassed, or worrying about being harassed. End of story.

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                Comes into a thread about the oppression of transgender people

                Claims that transgender people aren’t oppressed

                Not going to talk about the US

                You know exactly what you’re doing. I can’t believe you’re a mod, you fucking clown.

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                  Okay, I concede that the situation in the US is concerning for trans and queer folk. I tend not to think of US defaultism when discussing social issues.

                  Do you accept that?

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                    I don’t. This entire conversation has been in such bad faith. You really can’t pretend that this is about “US defaultism” now when you have been so obtuse about it all along.

                    I think you know exactly what you’re doing. Arguing that transgender people aren’t oppressed, while pretending that the rising epicenter of their oppression isn’t relevant to the conversation.

                    The year is 1938. Jews aren’t oppressed.

                    I’m not talking about Nazi Germany, that’s clown country.

                    Okay, I concede that the situation in Germany is concerning.

                    That’s how you fucking sound.

                    Edit - and for the record, there’s plenty of countries where being transgender has always been a death sentence. So whatever you think about “US defaultism”, you sure defaulted to a stupid position.