• CheesyCheese1 [She/her]@lemmy.caOP
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      8 months ago

      because nonbinary is being neither male nor female and transfem is being a woman, a binary gender. They are not the same thing.

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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        8 months ago

        Fem and woman aren’t synonyms. How else would you describe someone who was AMAB but is librafem, isn’t a woman and even further from being a man, but still has a connection to femininity?

        Lots of transfem people are women, but its sorta like a rectangle and square (all squares are rectangles, but only some rectangles are squares). Practically all trans woman are transfem, but not all transfem people are women.

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        8 months ago

        Your definitions are overly simplistic. There are bigender people who are male and female and are still non-binary.

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          Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can’t be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can’t be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive.

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            Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn’t a contested one.

            Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references.

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              It’s nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people.

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                “It’s nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it’s a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women.”

                Please explain how what you’re saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out.

                Your view is not even popular, so don’t say you’re speaking for “us real trans people”.

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                  8 months ago

                  Regarding your “hot and cold” analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative/_temperature:

                  > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature.

                  If you clarify what you mean by “hot” and “cold”, I’m sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn’t match your simplistic, obstinate understanding.