Just because you can pronunce a word it doesn’t mean you understand it. By definition eco-fascism is fascism, because it wouldn’t make sense otherwise.
I don’t get the meme but allow me to clarify: if you think this meme will prevent me from punching a fascist in the face, you are wrong.
It’s clear you didn’t understand the meme because your reply is almost a non-sequitur. The comic is saying phrases like “human are the virus” fail to understand a lot of damage done by humanity was incited, sustained, and furthered by capitalism. Those phrases are pushed for “eco-fascist rhetoric” about controlling or even eliminating humanity when ecological/societal damage could be remediated by swapping to an economic system that nutures less destructive and more pro-social tendencies.
I don’t know where you got the sense that the comic was telling you that fascists were okay. Honestly, I don’t even know what your first paragraph is talking about.
Yes, I think the meme is dumb and I didn’t get it, I wrote it too. “Eco fascist rethoric” is normal fascism. You don’t “swap” economic systems like you swap pants.
A true fascist doesn’t go back to normal, like true antivaxer will die cursing vaccines, like nazi dying doing the salute.
So, yes some “humans are the virus” and it’s not eco-fascism. It’s called resistance.
If I’m not wrong, English is not your first language. I think you should look up “eco-terrorism” and “eco-fascism” as words and try to understand them. “Eco-fascism” is meaningful different from normal “fascism” and can’t be swapped out as you want.
Ecofascists often believe there is a symbiotic relationship between a nation-group and its homeland. They often blame the global south for ecological problems, with their proposed solutions often entailing extreme population control measures based on racial categorisations, and advocating for the accelerated collapse of current society to be replaced by fascist societies.
Thanks for cherry-picking the one paragraph I expected you to. Instead of the many other lines stating how eco-fascism is a subset of fascism concerned with authoritarian control of populations for the “presumed” betterment of the ecosystem. While a normal fascist state can use ecological rhetoric to propel their fascism ideology, eco-fascism also provides a trap for radical environmentalists. The difference, and prime point of conflict, is that protecting the global ecosystem is a good thing and passionate environmental activists run the risk of radicalizing into, or being derogatorily labeled as, eco-fascists. Whereas, I don’t see a well-meaning person falling into traditional fascism.
But you seem pretty intent on misunderstanding so this will be my final comment to you.
To reiterate. The comic is not espousing fascist thought or telling people to let it slide. It’s saying: don’t say shit like “humans are the problem” because you sound like a(n eco-)fascist when a less genocidal solution is “give up capitalism and try a different way of trading for necessities and luxuries.” I hope I don’t have to explain that “humans are the virus” is not a phrase easily carried by connotations, so a listener cannot just infer “oh yes, the speaker clearly means ‘all the fascists unrepentantly making the world worse are the virus and should be purged’.” They will instead hear “humans are the virus” and think ‘this weirdo wants all humans to die.’
If you want to (paradoxically) use eco-fascist phrases to espouse your anti-fascist ideology, you are allowed to but you’ll waste a lot of time, like today, trying to confirm that you and they are on the same side. Because you’ll just sound like an eco-fascist.
Just because you can pronunce a word it doesn’t mean you understand it. By definition eco-fascism is fascism, because it wouldn’t make sense otherwise.
I don’t get the meme but allow me to clarify: if you think this meme will prevent me from punching a fascist in the face, you are wrong.
It’s clear you didn’t understand the meme because your reply is almost a non-sequitur. The comic is saying phrases like “human are the virus” fail to understand a lot of damage done by humanity was incited, sustained, and furthered by capitalism. Those phrases are pushed for “eco-fascist rhetoric” about controlling or even eliminating humanity when ecological/societal damage could be remediated by swapping to an economic system that nutures less destructive and more pro-social tendencies.
I don’t know where you got the sense that the comic was telling you that fascists were okay. Honestly, I don’t even know what your first paragraph is talking about.
Yes, I think the meme is dumb and I didn’t get it, I wrote it too. “Eco fascist rethoric” is normal fascism. You don’t “swap” economic systems like you swap pants.
A true fascist doesn’t go back to normal, like true antivaxer will die cursing vaccines, like nazi dying doing the salute.
So, yes some “humans are the virus” and it’s not eco-fascism. It’s called resistance.
You don‘t get it, that too bad. But that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with that meme.
I’m here to understand more, you can try eh. I’m happy to embrace a different theory that doesn’t involve wishful thinking and forced optimism.
If I’m not wrong, English is not your first language. I think you should look up “eco-terrorism” and “eco-fascism” as words and try to understand them. “Eco-fascism” is meaningful different from normal “fascism” and can’t be swapped out as you want.
I did and I think you should too.
Ecofascism
Maybe I’m dumb 🤷♂️
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Thanks for cherry-picking the one paragraph I expected you to. Instead of the many other lines stating how eco-fascism is a subset of fascism concerned with authoritarian control of populations for the “presumed” betterment of the ecosystem. While a normal fascist state can use ecological rhetoric to propel their fascism ideology, eco-fascism also provides a trap for radical environmentalists. The difference, and prime point of conflict, is that protecting the global ecosystem is a good thing and passionate environmental activists run the risk of radicalizing into, or being derogatorily labeled as, eco-fascists. Whereas, I don’t see a well-meaning person falling into traditional fascism.
But you seem pretty intent on misunderstanding so this will be my final comment to you.
To reiterate. The comic is not espousing fascist thought or telling people to let it slide. It’s saying: don’t say shit like “humans are the problem” because you sound like a(n eco-)fascist when a less genocidal solution is “give up capitalism and try a different way of trading for necessities and luxuries.” I hope I don’t have to explain that “humans are the virus” is not a phrase easily carried by connotations, so a listener cannot just infer “oh yes, the speaker clearly means ‘all the fascists unrepentantly making the world worse are the virus and should be purged’.” They will instead hear “humans are the virus” and think ‘this weirdo wants all humans to die.’
If you want to (paradoxically) use eco-fascist phrases to espouse your anti-fascist ideology, you are allowed to but you’ll waste a lot of time, like today, trying to confirm that you and they are on the same side. Because you’ll just sound like an eco-fascist.