• Glytch@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Such hatred for an animal, predisposed to loving people, that has to be abused into being violent. I’m not blocking you because I want to see what other stupid shit you have to say.

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        13 hours ago

        Please don’t misunderstand, I don’t have any hatred for this or any other animal.

        It’s just doing what it does, it has as much right to exist as we do, if anything - more, because we bred it to be this way.

        But practically speaking we can’t have a dangerous breed like this just be let loose like this, and I don’t trust people enough to be safe with it, same way I wouldn’t trust most people with a tiger etc.

        We fucked up by breeding dogs in many ways, from breeds that can barely breathe and have all sorts of awful health complications to breeds that are too violent to be kept around humans safely. We have to undo our fuck ups, even when it means we have to ban the breed from common households and in some cases even put down dogs, even though it’s messed up, it’s not their fault, it’s ours, and there’s not much we can do but clean up this mess and try to learn and be better and more responsible about breeding animals.

        I take no pleasure in saying this nevermind thinking about what has to be done, but I don’t see any other way. I’m really quite sorry. Our entire species should be.

      • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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        an animal, predisposed to loving people, that has to be abused into being violent.

        (warning: graphic) Pitbull puppies have been known to eat littermates down to the head, even with plenty of food available. Good luck finding a story about a labrador retriever doing that.

        You don’t have to abuse border collies for them to try to herd things.
        You don’t have to abuse beagles for them to obsessively follow their nose.
        You don’t have to abuse terriers for them to dig.

        The extremely dangerous combination of spontaneous aggression and lack of survival instinct (never seen any other breed headbutt a windshield repeatedly from the inside of a car to try and get at something outside, to and beyond the point of laceration/injury) pitbulls exhibit are, like those of the breed groups above, the result of a lot of selective breeding.

        You unfortunately can’t love the genetics out of a pitbull–if you could, there wouldn’t be any shocked loving pitbull owners who were victimized.

        • Glytch@lemmy.world
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          You’re not who I was replying to, but this is exactly the stupid shit I was talking about: cherry picked stories with intentionally inflammatory imagery used to justify unreasonable hatred of an animal that’s popular among POC. Same thing that happened with Rotties. Same thing that happened with Dobies.

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            6 hours ago

            unreasonable hatred of an animal that’s popular among POC.

            ???

            Nobody was talking about POC, lmao, are you trying to accuse pitbull awareness of being racism? Never read a story about a POC viciously attacking a loving family member out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Human beings don’t do that. But pitbulls do.

            I personally knew an older woman in the neighborhood who was the sweetest person in the world, lived by herself with her dog after her husband died, and her pitbull hospitalized her with a completely unprovoked random attack while she was walking it on my block. And I witnessed that ‘windshield incident’ myself, different animal, there is no other breed that is so aggressive/tenacious that it’ll start headbutting a windshield to get at a squirrel running around in front of the car, much less keep doing it even after it’s gotten its face all cut up from the windshield cracking. That is insane behavior.

            There’s nothing unreasonable about not wanting those living ticking time bombs around. Again, you will NEVER find an image of golden labs eating littermates down to the head. Denying the existence of breed-specific traits is just delusional.

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      Harmful stereotypes are harmful stereotypes. It’s the owners - not the dogs themselves

      • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        You broke rule 7 multiple times. The rules are clear. See you in 30 days.

        The statistics are technically correct, it’s not all pit bulls, but pit bulls often show up in statistics due to various human factors and breed misreporting.

        They appear statistically dangerous, but individual pit-like dogs are not inherently dangerous, hence why rule 7 is important.

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            It’s a throwaway comment to highlight the fact that dogs will do what they’re trained to do. It’s not a breed problem. It’s an owner problem.