An abortion clinic in Colorado that for more than 50 years served people who looked to terminate their pregnancies in the second or third trimester quietly closed last month.

To fellow travelers, Hannah Brehm likely looked like she was taking a belated babymoon well into her third trimester.

But she and her husband had received a crushing diagnosis: Their baby’s brain was not developing properly, upending their wanted pregnancy. Medical experts warned moving forward would likely mean her son would know only pain and suffering. The Minnesota couple wasn’t going to take that chance.

Instead, they went to Colorado, where for decades the Boulder Abortion Clinic served as a resource for women who looked to terminate their pregnancies in the second or third trimester because of medical reasons, like Brehm, or other circumstances.

After more than 50 years, that clinic quietly closed last month, leaving the U.S. with just a handful that offer abortions after 28 weeks into pregnancy — many on a case-by-case basis.

  • TeoTwawki@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I’m genuinely curious, when in development do you think consciousness begins?

    For you, does this have anything to do with human life being special or sacred, or having a soul?

    I’m not looking to mock or provoke, I’m just curious because I’ve seen people place importance on the life or dna of the fetus being human or importance on when the brain forms, or when the heart starts beating. People have a wide variety of opinions on both when life starts and on when personhood starts, and the criteria they use for each. I think discussing these things objectively could help reduce internet arguments on the topic, but only if people have good faith discussion. I realize that is tough to do these days.

      • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
        6·
        2 days ago

        I believe human life to be valuable

        No, you don’t. You don’t value a woman’s life as much as a baby’s when she needs a late term abortion due to medical issues.

        I know they think they are doing what is right.

        Which means you think it’s wrong. The difference between you and them is you eliminate the choice a woman has.

        Imagine watching people feed their babies into a grinder and not even being able to convince them that it isn’t a great thing to do.

        People don’t feed their babies into grinders but you know that.

        Whether you truly believe the things you say or are simply a troll is moot. Only one side of the abortion argument rests in removing bodily autonomy from women and controlling them.

          • LilB0kChoy@lemm.eeEnglish
            6·
            2 days ago

            We are all controlled.

            No, we’re not. I don’t know what kind of nonsense this is supposed to be.

            Sometimes a child cannot survive, and must be killed lest they kill the mother. Things like that happen. That place wasn’t restraining themselves to those edge situations. Sometimes people were cutting up babies just for being inconvenient.

            Yeah? Anything to support that? More importantly, if a woman gets pregnant and you are neither the woman in question, nor the doctor who is providing her care then what business is it of yours at all? Explain why you (or any other person outside of the woman and her care provider) should have any say in whether a woman decides to terminate a pregnancy or not. You can object to it, you can dislike it, but you absolutely do not have the right to remove her right to bodily autonomy and choice.

            You need not worry. I don’t vote for Republicans. You don’t need to overcompensate to get extra points for your partisan games…

            I don’t care about politics, you do. You brought it up. You can vote for whomever you like, I’m just sick of people like you who seem to believe you have some moral authority to control how a woman chooses to manage her own body because of how you feel about it.

      • TeoTwawki@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Personally my own line of thought is I wasn’t a person until at a minimum the first bit of brain was there, and I want more research on consciousness to figure out how much it took for me to have a concept of “me”, and I figure before that I was no more a person than my mom’s liver is. But I recognize not everyone is going to agree with that. But if you think there is a person from the moment a unique dna sequence is formed, it is easy to see how you can have your perspectives on the subject of abortion. I may not agree, but I understand better.