• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.

    As usual, it’s okay with they do it.

    • The thing I think is the most irreconcilable, incompromisable, consistently demonstrated behavior of The Right in America is the blatant hypocrisy about nearly all of their planks. It’s the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.

      • Everyone needs guns to defend themselves from The State, because 2A! (Except for black people defending themselves from no-knock entry cops who got the address wrong)
      • The government shouldn’t be allowed to tell us how to live! (Except for LGBTQ* people, women’s choices about their own bodies, or homeless people)
      • The Constitution is sacrosanct! (Except for the part about separation of church and state, we just ignore that part)

      It’s the same for their every. Single. Position. It makes me weary, and furious, depressed and pessimistic.

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        I wish I could after on the guns things but I should not own a gun! I have a history of depression and I super don’t want to have easy access.

        That said, put a gun in my hands and I’ll do my part to end fascism. I’m even a fairly decent shot for having only fired a gun 3 different times. Just please take the thing away from me when I rotate out.

        Better yet, get me an fpv headset.

        When I joined the militia I had promised myself to kill one Fascist – after all, if each of us killed one they would soon be extinct… -George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia

        • I’m not advocating anyone buy a gun, mind you. My general opinion on guns is the same about cars: the only person I truly trust to operate one is me; the rest of all y’all are just generally unreliable.

          That said: get a long gun. Any non-Bulpup rifle with a 20” or longer barrel - it’s really hard to commit suicide with a long rifle. You can find a way, sure, but there are far easier, more reliable ways to off yourself than trying to figure out how to pull a trigger you can’t reach when the bangy end is pointed at your head. And the knowledge that most people who try doing this end up still alive but permanently mangled and with reduced faculties may drive you to seek those alternative methods.

          Another plus for a rifle is that it’s simply a better weapon for killing fascists. We have a lot of evidence that handguns are almost never used in armed conflicts. They’re far less powerful than rifles (in general), and their effective ranges are drastically shorter. Get a cheap optic, do some practice shooting, and you’ll be better armed and prepared than any open-carry idiot running around armed only with their trusty Colt M1911 with official Trump pistol grips.

          I really wish that last part was a joke.

          I don’t mean to come across as minimizing mental health issues. I also can’t prevent you from trying to off yourself. All that said, I hope you are able to get help, and get healthy.

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            Hey thanks, this is an idea that I hadn’t thought much about and I’ll have to consider it. I also need consider storage and how to get to a range without a car but those things are workable.

            As for my mental health, I’m doing well and feel in a good place all around. I got married a year and a half ago and have a stable life. I’m doing good. This will have to be a process if I’m going to buy a rifle but your arguments have opened me to the idea.

            • Glad to hear you’re in a more stable place! I know it’s a constant struggle; rarely do people just “get better” and never gave issues again, but I’m glad that you’re on top of it.

              Open carry is legal almost everywhere in the US. You could literally put a sling on it, strap it on your back, and ride your bike to the range. If you shoot a common caliber, you can buy ammo when you get there (assuming it’s a range in or near a store). You’d need to check your local laws about what you need to do to open carry a gun and ammunition; like, can you have it in a protective case?

              Anyway, good luck with your journey.

  • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    Funny how they’re calling for riots instead of going to the streets and rioting.
    I wonder if they remember what happened to them the last time they tried that shit 🤔.

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      ?

      These are likely the same ones that pushed 1/6 and spent a lot of time telling people to do it.

      The reason they’re still doing that, is they weren’t the ones to actually show up.

      They’re not gonna stop doing it, because they didn’t get any consequences from last time.

      All they gotta do is keep making these posts saying someone should do something. And chances are some idiots will do it.

      Like, remember that main old guy from American History X?

      He got naive kids to do the dirty work, so he was able to spend decades doing it without any consequences.

      For real life example, just look at Alex Jones. How long it took for him to even go to court, and how he’s still not in jail or paying any judgements.

      But he’s still running his mouth and telling others to do the work.

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    The best outcome now is for the fuckers to mobilize and start killing ppl. Perform some actual Geneva convention war crimes and just really go to town. Proper attack.

    Because right now is a very small but vocal group. And I’m sure Don Snorleone would marvel and rave about a new group of people marching forcefully in his name. Right up until they starts to execute democrats and people disagreeing with them on a whim.

    Then you could respond in force, killing and jailing them and no one would disagree. It would be a wake-up call. It could purge parts of the GOP.

    Now you have secession talks within the party that will just be whispers until this thing grows out of control. Then you get “Ciwil war” or god damn praise be “Handmaidens tale”…

    Rise up and get fucked!

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      “The best thing” and “start killing ppl” should not be in one sentence. Those ppl will have families. I get the idea but no.

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    I looked at /r/conservative last night and it was not good for my mental health. Thousands of commenters all agree it was a sham trial that he will win on appeal and that this will only earn him votes.

    The last two things, they may be right about and that’s terrifying.

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      They move the goalpost at every turn.

      I remember when they said he’d win big in 2020. I remember when they said he wouldn’t be indicted. Next it’s some other silly line in the sand. They’re not exactly great prognosticators.

      They call it a sham but I ask, where is the proof? There is, of course, zero.

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    …thus showing that the “Law and Order” party was never about law, they just want a particular kind of order- that is, a hierarchy wherein people below them on the status-ladder know not to try to hold them accountable to anything, including the law or even plain decency.

    To them, the law is the cudgel to keep the poors and plebes in their place- low in the order- never to be applied to them.

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      That’s Republicanism and that left the US Republican Party years ago.

      Now it’s all about Conservatism through any means. And it’s not even pure Conservatism: it’s heavily tainted with Tribalism.