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    2 days ago

    Man, I’m about to be a grump, but Trek ruined the whole Captain catchphrase thing the instant it acknowledged it as a moment.

    It was iconic because it happened a lot, but nobody was afraid to have someone else say it or for the person in charge to say something else. The moment they put a spotlight on it as fan service it became silly and jumped the shark.

    Darkwing still could get away with this one, though.

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      I’m halfway with you. I thought it was cute the first time they did it. It suited Saru’s character to be stressing out over something so unimportant.

      But then they brought it up again in Picard and again in SNW, and now it seems like everyone in starfleet is super invested in their captains’ incidental verbal ticks. The joke worked once and once only, but they keep going back to it.

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        Yep, that’s not halfway, that’s my take, too.

        Worst part is, they clearly think this kills at a fundamental level. They even ended Lower Decks on that gag. They had a good one, but it was still a bummer.

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          Riker on the Titan’s “5, 6, 7, 8…” for going to warp was funny. The gag with Ransom was just awkward.

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          Ah, yeah, I forgot Lower Decks used it, too. It’s really weird - like watching your coworkers speculating about what your new boss’ email sign off is going to be.

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        Man, you so rarely see a straw man argument include an actual straw man. Kudos. That’s a lot of meta for a single post. It’s like nerdier rickrolling. I’m genuinely impressed.

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      I gave up in Discovery. PLEASE tell me she didn’t stick with “Let’s Fly”

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        They did. Not even once does it sound natural or like a thing she just says. They always stop and make it a close up and take a beat and she says it with extreme intensity.

        I don’t think Disco is as bad as people make it out to be. I quite like most of it, in fact. But man, did they mess that part up.

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          The most frustrating thing for me about Discovery is that the stupid right-wing backlash to it has resulted in valid criticisms being ignored and lumped in with those.

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            Oh, add that to the list, for sure. You couldn’t talk about The Last Jedi, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel (and pretty much anything Disney, honestly). I feel like they tried with Glass Onion but then that was too good, so nobody cared.

            But yeah, Disco was definitely in that list. It’s just that people had that argument anyway because Star Trek is not Star Wars. Hell, if anything I feel like any conversation about Trek that goes on sufficiently long over here ends up hitting up Disco’s pros and cons. I think the alt nerds just got bored of all the respectful nuance and move on.

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          The holograms used before TOS, hand-wavey “let’s forget all this ever happend and send you to the future”, extreme intensity that Michael Burnham says EVERYTHING with, everything being SO FREAKING DARK and ret-conning Star Trek lore (I’m related to Spok) is all what put me off - I just had to stop watching. Thing is, I had NO IDEA the actress that played Michael was Ronda in New Girl! - WOW , so different!! I thought she couldn’t act, it turns out she was given terrible material and direction. (all this in IMHO).

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            I don’t give much of a crap about the lore stuff at all. I do think Martin-Green was given the short end of the stick when it came to characterization and her overly earnest Starfleet persona wasn’t particularly good.

            I do like the supporting cast, and while I think S5 is the weakest of the bunch, I did like S2-4 well enough. Certainly would watch it over any season of Picard, myself, but there is some wasted potential there, for sure.

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    Miles O’Brien in the chair after a field commission to captain on an engineering vessel: “Time to suffer, I guess.”

    (Personally, though, I head cannon that O’Brien eventually gets the nickname “Non-com Admiral”.)

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    It’s honestly cringe how NuTrek has been trying to make this a thing. No, Picard didn’t say “engage” because it was a catchphrase. It was never a catchphrase. It’s a standard command and we see other commanding officers give the exact same order.