As I said in another thread elsewhere on the same subject:
The Protest Vote Paradox™
As we’ve all read time after time in the months leading up to the election, the Protest Vote™ simply states states that:
“We refuse to vote against a Tyrant-Felon in order to send a clear and concise message that we will not stand for [roll D20 for random popular single issue], and alongside our refusal to vote against the Tyrant-Felon, is a collective hope that the aforementioned clear and concise message- if ignored, is received under unmitigated duress!”
-Cut to Tyrant-Felon’s win, and the aftermath:
Whether observed or not, the behavior of the Protest Voter will attempt to achieve the following:
• Obnoxiously tell everyone: “We told you all what would happen!”
• Onnoxiously claim there is: “No way protest voting could cause trump to win.”
As both of these options cannot simultaneously be true in the same reality without breaking important time-space things that we would probably prefer not be broken- we are left with only a few logical conclusions:
Protest voters have no idea what they’re talking about.
Protest voters don’t understand the concept of hypocrisy.
Protest voters have somehow learned to defy reality and become exempt from the concept of paradoxes, thus creating an entirely new study of theoretical science, known as Bulletproof Symbiotic Hypocrisy Theory, or BLsHt.
As both of these options cannot simultaneously be true
They absolutely can. Protest voters not voting don’t encompass every democrat vote lost, there are simply many unconvinced people who became apathetic and didn’t vote despite having nothing to do with protest voters, with the latter being a minority. Stop your logical fallacies based on false premises.
I’m claiming that protest voting wasn’t a significant factor in trump being elected, unlike democrats running on having the, I quote, “most lethal army in the world” during an ongoing genocide, bringing the Cheney, and a myriad of other problems. The dems only have themselves to blame for being incapable of offering a better, more desirable option than Donald J fucking Trump
All the people saying “you should have listened to us!” and, “We told you this would happen!”
Liars?
Not liars, just unaware that, outwards (i.e. internationally), there is no difference in policy between democrats and republicans. Now, what are you gonna do, bash to the left of you (the ones who actually organise to fight against fascism), or join us?
It DID work and you all successfully got trump elected?
You’re kind of making my point for me here. Pick a lane and stick with it. Either your protest was effective and you take credit for where we are now, or it was a waste of time and effort.
So let’s skip over the double-talk and rhetoric and break this down a bit.
You say it was never the objective to have protest effect anything electoral, yet at the heart of a boycott/refusal-based protest- THAT is what the expected result. The message is sent via consequences of not listening to the protest “warning.” You don’t protest with the holes of having no effect on something. Admit it: You all threatened America that we’d get trump if we didn’t listen to you.
Saying we didn’t expect to effect anything on an electoral standpoint- is the equivalent of saying, ”we are boycotting Best Buy by not shopping there, but we don’t expect to hurt their profit margin at all!”
You either successfully protested the election by wasting it on a third party/staying home- thus allowing trump to win, or you failed at protesting the election by wasting it on a third party/staying home- thus allowing trump to win.
It cannot be both or neither. And no matter the answer- your little protest voting fucked everyone. You all helped get trump elected. Period. There is no argument to be made here.
So with the smoke cleared, and the blame properly placed, our only consolation is watching you all perform your awkward mental gymnastics in an hopeless effort to not be held responsible.
Lastly…
And by still denying responsibility, you are actively saying that you lack the humility and self-awareness it takes to admit you made a mistake, and as a result, are now free and clear to protest everyone’s rights away next election because you’ll find a new single issue as an excuse to lazily stay home and bitch at people on the internet. All because you have a rock-solid excuse to absolve you of any responsibility for your unwillingness to do the bare minimum.
If you didn’t vote- this was YOUR fault. Democrats voted. They did their job. Even conservatives voted and did their job. If you didn’t-
As I said in another thread elsewhere on the same subject:
The Protest Vote Paradox™
As we’ve all read time after time in the months leading up to the election, the Protest Vote™ simply states states that:
“We refuse to vote against a Tyrant-Felon in order to send a clear and concise message that we will not stand for [roll D20 for random popular single issue], and alongside our refusal to vote against the Tyrant-Felon, is a collective hope that the aforementioned clear and concise message- if ignored, is received under unmitigated duress!”
-Cut to Tyrant-Felon’s win, and the aftermath:
Whether observed or not, the behavior of the Protest Voter will attempt to achieve the following:
• Obnoxiously tell everyone: “We told you all what would happen!”
• Onnoxiously claim there is: “No way protest voting could cause trump to win.”
As both of these options cannot simultaneously be true in the same reality without breaking important time-space things that we would probably prefer not be broken- we are left with only a few logical conclusions:
Something, something, something Ted Talk.
Occam’s razor that versus the campaign was SO POORLY RAN that it didn’t inspire people to vote against a literal dictator.
all of the above, plus perhaps iran, dprk…
They absolutely can. Protest voters not voting don’t encompass every democrat vote lost, there are simply many unconvinced people who became apathetic and didn’t vote despite having nothing to do with protest voters, with the latter being a minority. Stop your logical fallacies based on false premises.
So, you’re claiming that the protest both worked to help elect trump, and simultaneously didn’t work to help elect trump……
Gotcha.
I’m claiming that protest voting wasn’t a significant factor in trump being elected, unlike democrats running on having the, I quote, “most lethal army in the world” during an ongoing genocide, bringing the Cheney, and a myriad of other problems. The dems only have themselves to blame for being incapable of offering a better, more desirable option than Donald J fucking Trump
Sooooooo…. All the people saying “you should have listened to us!” and, “We told you this would happen!”
Liars?
Because a LOT of you seem to think that your little protest was a clear message sent and received.
Not liars, just unaware that, outwards (i.e. internationally), there is no difference in policy between democrats and republicans. Now, what are you gonna do, bash to the left of you (the ones who actually organise to fight against fascism), or join us?
Okay, so-
It DID work and you all successfully got trump elected?
You’re kind of making my point for me here. Pick a lane and stick with it. Either your protest was effective and you take credit for where we are now, or it was a waste of time and effort.
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So let’s skip over the double-talk and rhetoric and break this down a bit.
You say it was never the objective to have protest effect anything electoral, yet at the heart of a boycott/refusal-based protest- THAT is what the expected result. The message is sent via consequences of not listening to the protest “warning.” You don’t protest with the holes of having no effect on something. Admit it: You all threatened America that we’d get trump if we didn’t listen to you.
Saying we didn’t expect to effect anything on an electoral standpoint- is the equivalent of saying, ”we are boycotting Best Buy by not shopping there, but we don’t expect to hurt their profit margin at all!”
You either successfully protested the election by wasting it on a third party/staying home- thus allowing trump to win, or you failed at protesting the election by wasting it on a third party/staying home- thus allowing trump to win.
It cannot be both or neither. And no matter the answer- your little protest voting fucked everyone. You all helped get trump elected. Period. There is no argument to be made here.
So with the smoke cleared, and the blame properly placed, our only consolation is watching you all perform your awkward mental gymnastics in an hopeless effort to not be held responsible.
Lastly…
And by still denying responsibility, you are actively saying that you lack the humility and self-awareness it takes to admit you made a mistake, and as a result, are now free and clear to protest everyone’s rights away next election because you’ll find a new single issue as an excuse to lazily stay home and bitch at people on the internet. All because you have a rock-solid excuse to absolve you of any responsibility for your unwillingness to do the bare minimum.
If you didn’t vote- this was YOUR fault. Democrats voted. They did their job. Even conservatives voted and did their job. If you didn’t-
Trump is YOUR fault.