Summary
Gerald Radford, accused of killing John “Walt” Lay in a hate crime, claims self-defense under Florida’s stand-your-ground law.
Prosecutors dispute Radford’s story, citing witness testimony of months of harassment, homophobic slurs, and a threatening video Lay shared.
The judge will rule on the stand-your-ground motion next week.
Can I try something like this, but with nazis?
Oh no I was just talking to people, then I noticed a nazi armband someone is wearing so I panicked and have to
murderuse lethal force against him in an act of self defence.Lets call it: The Nazi Panic Defence?
Real talk, read and understand the laws in whatever state you’re in. There are varying expectations on retreat, and life threatening danger.
If I see nazis walking around in my city and they hasn’t been beaten yet. I know I’m already fucked. Like I live in a deep blue city with like 90% democrats, if my fellow resident of my city don’t be punching nazis, my city is so fucked.
But I honestly doubt we’d let things go that far.
I’ve lived here for like 10 years and never seen a nazi. Like maybe racists or karens, but never someone doing actual nazi stuff.
Don’t think my city people would ever tolerate nazis, and I hope that remains that way forever.
For sure. I also mean when traveling.
There’s a lot I don’t like about Philly, but this is one thing I love.
Philly threw snowballs at Santa Claus. You bet your ass they’ll fuck up a Nazi.
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Yeah.
Trace this back to the republican money that is likely backing the defense to ride this up to the Supreme Court and set legal precedence to murder LGBTQIA+ People.
Lay shared a video claiming Radford had threatened him at the dog park the day before the shooting. In the video, Lay claimed he had an encounter with Radford at the park and that Radford told him, “You’re going to die.”
So, because this is Florida, I assume the judge will rule that this is a definite stand-your-ground case. Gotta defend yourself against catching a case of the gays.
It may be Florida, but let’s not forget that they also (rightly) ruled against that lady who shot that 17yo black kid through her door, citing the same law as her defense.
Hush now. Don’t go against the narrative.
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Are you really not aware of how intensely queerphobic the Florida justice system is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Florida#Gay_and_trans_panic_defense
In fact, I’m amazed this guy didn’t decide to go with the ‘gay panic’ defense.
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It has to do with a bigoted Florida judge (a common thing) deciding that killing a queer person is justified and finding the ‘stand your ground’ argument acceptable because of it. I’m not sure why this has to be spelled out for you.
Ok. I’ll bite. What evidence can you provide that it’s common for Florida judges to be bigoted?
Are you fucking serious? What country do you think Florida is in?
Judges in Florida literally allowed themselves to not give a shit about fairness or diversity by not teaching about it.
Your first link doesn’t even mention Florida (unless I missed it). It simply states other judges that have been appointed by Trump. You created the scope of the conversation by stating it is common for Florida judges to be “bigoted”. I’m seeking examples of said bigotry.
Your second link simply states Florida judges, who are required to take 30 hours of classes, are no longer required to take any classes regarding “fairness and diversity”. That is certainly not evidence of bogtry.
Look man, you are the one you made a statement: Florida judges are commonly bigoted. Your links don’t prove anything of the sort. I’m talking about them handing down verdicts that are objectively bigoted towards the person who is on the receiving end of that verdict. And I’m not taking about one or two cases. You said “common” which means this happens on a routine basis. Either you have the evidence or you don’t.
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No one else seems to be confused by the concept of queerphobic Florida judges.
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See also: Gay panic
What a fucked up country where if you want to murder someone, all you need to do is harass them relentlessly for days beforehand so when they eventually try to protect themselves you can shoot them and claim self defense.
The George Zimmerman way.
Sounds like people who defend themselves with deadly force have more rights than those who defend themselves without murder. So, the lesson should be to make sure to kill, not just injure someone who is attacking you? That’s what the gun companies have been wanting anyway. More people will need to buy their guns.
Unless you shoot a ceo.
Well, he was going to turn him gay, no?
