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    The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane. It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.

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      The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane.

      Something something contract of adhesion something something. It is functionally a term of service to watch the whole body of content as a condition of watching any of it.

      It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.

      This effectively used to be how people would sell Time Share rentals. You would “win” a “free vacation” to a destination that hosted the time share. Then, in order to check in you needed to sit through a sales pitch that only ended when you agreed to purchase the unit you’d allegedly been awarded as a prize.

      If you tried to leave the sales pitch prematurely, you were ejected from the venue.

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        Yeah, and there’s a reason contracts of adhesion are [supposed to be] illegal.

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      It’s worse than that. They use so much bw that most users have limited higher -speed to access, but they’re not giving anyone vouchers to pay for extra bandwidth.

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      Exactly, it’s absolutely absurd.

      Think we ought to just start harassing marketers and anyone involved with advertising.

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          A privately owned platform cannot serve the public good. There will always be conflicts of interest. A proper public square should be funded by a competent government (but those are rare) or decentralized.

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        I hate the way they‘re doing it and how they push their silly premium subscription in my face whenever I open the app to look something up quick. Adblock all the way. But you‘re right. They have to make money somehow. They‘re a corporation after all. It‘s naive to think they will ever give up.

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        When suggested adblock, my mother also do not convinced it’s right to use them. Basically, my mother is grateful for the service provided, and will “pay” by watching ads. I guess this one is not so clear-cut.

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    Well I guess I’ll be mozying over to Rumble now.

    20 minutes later

    Turns out Jews are aliens directing the Democratic Party and Hollywood to sacrifice babies for adrenochrome. Why is the lamestream media not talking about this???

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      I’d watch the shit outta that with some popcorn. Between the logic jumps and the mandatory hand-waving of actual evidence to the contrary, and sheer numbers of fallacies to make the argument make sense it sounds like a hella entertaining time

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      Lol.

      There’s some decent content if you look. I like Glenn Greenwald, and I sub to NBTV and Mental Outlaw on Odyssey. There’s a lot of nonsense on all platforms, but if you’re careful, you may find some decent stuff there. I wish more YouTubers would re-upload on other platforms, but I guess that’s asking too much…

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        Well, the Jewish Jews are the LORD’s chosen, underdogs who are bravely soldiering the storm, but the American Jews are communist Satan worshippers who’ve sold their souls for control of the world. They’ve been battling for millenia to control the space lasers.

        Also, now that I’ve imagined it, there’s both porn and a Manga of it.

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            Don’t forget, jews have to own the entire holy land before the apocalypse comes and god sends them to hell, according to evangelical Christians.

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        Imagine being Jewish and on either side people hate you.

        Right wing: Jews are behind everything

        Left wing: Jews are zionists and zionists are Nazis because Israel.

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            I know very well that many Jews are against Netanyahu. All my relatives in Israel regularly protest that war criminal, along with tens of thousands of others.

            Doesn’t stop the majority on this site from equating Israel with Jews. I made the mistake of writing “mazel tov” as part of one of my previous comments and received all sorts of colourful inbox messages calling me a “Zionist” lol.

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        It all becomes clear once you understand that the Jews returning to Israel is a precondition for the Christian apocalypse. Christofascists don’t give a flying fuck about the Jews; they support Israel as a country (and Zionism in particular) for the entirely ghoulishly selfish reason that they wanna get ‘raptured.’

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          And you both are oversimplifying by putting the christian zionist nutjobs within the same basket with the vast array of other nutjobs and assume that they are all the same.

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            oversimplifying by putting the christian zionist nutjobs within the same basket with the vast array of other nutjobs

            It’s a fairly compact venn diagram.

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            All of our politicians are proud zionists, even if few are jews, or extreme evangelicals.

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            Instead of dismissing you out of hand, I wouldn’t mind hearing what the big picture is that you see.

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      God I was looking for peertube apps and rumble was advertised in the app store. Boy did I have a surprise when I scrolled through the most subscribed list

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        Yeah, don’t do that. The most popular content on YouTube isn’t bad in the same way it is on Rumble/Odyssey, but in general, it’s filled with clickbait/rage bait and is generally pretty awful. It’s going to be especially awful on Rumble and Odyssey because it’s a refuge for people who didn’t like YouTube’s policies, so it’s going to largely be conspiracy theorists and far right nonsense.

        That said, there’s some good on every platform. On Rumble, I like Glenn Greenwald, who is a right of center independent journalist who lives in Brazil (also gay, but that’s irrelevant). On Odyssey, I like Mental Outlaw (covers hacks, leaks, and privacy related news) and Naomi Brockwell (privacy advocacy). I don’t have an account at either, largely because those platforms are full of trash, I just sub through Grayjay so I don’t see that nonsense.

        I wish a credible alternative existed, but for now, I’ll hedge a bit with other platforms.

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          I remember, pre-wikileaks, when Glen Greenwald was left of center. Or at least that was my perspective at the time.

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            I think he’s pretty centrist, but he does tend to defend Trump a bit (not a fanboy, but a “see what he does” position) and is against supporting Ukraine, which is why I say he’s right of center. He’s nowhere near the Republican Party though, he’s pretty independent.

            Regardless, I don’t really care where he sits on the left/right spectrum, I just appreciate an independent voice that backs statements with facts.

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    Get a cheap (Argentina, Egypt, Ghana, India, Ecuador) premium… There are dozens of instructions on how to get it through a VPN.

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        YouTube is canceling accounts in other countries in waves at the moment. My account in Vietnam (I live in Germany) will also be canceled in mid-January 2025. I would have to add a Vietnamese credit card, which would be a bit much work for me.

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      Wait yt premium has different rates in different countries? Anyway hosting a free to use service like youtube cost a ton in storage and bandwidth, contrary to nebula. I would rather support it as it doesn’t do DRM and other too much user hostile stuffs (I’m using free software clients for long time, no issue. I’ll continue after premium too as official client isn’t that good). But ofc first I would like to know actual budget and ad money cash flow to see if it needs help really or just a marketing tactic to pump up revenue in typical corporate fashion.

      Anybody has such income-expense data source for youtube?

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        A lot of companies have regional pricing. Some regions jist have way lower buying power and as such cannot afford 60$ games as it can be quite a significant sum of their income as compared to us.

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    mpv youtube-URL works just fine without even loading the crappy scripts to show a banner like that. Manage your subscriptions with a RSS feeder and you don’t need an account to follow creators.

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    I kinda miss when places would host their own videos instead of relying on youtube, but that’s the problem of a centralized internet, the majority of people won’t want to leave yt/ig/fb/tiktok/twitter/reddit in order to watch or read whatever you posted.

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        So in other words this is a tech issue.

        As someone who’s written in-browser player and transcoding/server code…the lemmy/mastodon etc. version of this can work, especially if flexible bitrate handling is baked into it (i.e., bitrate offer/acceptance matching over a protocol). You can get this down to YouTube interface + install some software + open a port on your firewall.

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          Tech issue, infrastructure issue, content issue, financial issue…

          Hosting text like lemmy is several orders of magnitude cheaper than video.

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      People don’t want to deal with the heavy costs and load of hosting their own content. That’s unfortunately the sacrifice. Google is big enough to house it all, whereas, we’d probably see content from a creator last for a finite amount of time before they end up having to close up shop or beg for donations.

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        Beg for donations? How is being paid for your work “begging”?

        As you said, hosting video is not only complicated but just fucking expensive, that’s why people don’t do it themselves. Google pays for it via ads/premium, not by magic pixie dust.

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      Centralisation and large scale has it’s benefits. There were also many problems with everybody hosting their stuff by themselves. Enshittification is results of private companies having to go profit first (and google being google of course), not so much because they are the only game in town. Being the monopoly merely enables the shitting on users for profit. I see youtube and many google services more like internet’s utilities that are privately owned and that is causing problems, not that they have gotten so big.

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    AdGuard pro, SponsorBlock, DeArrow, and Untrap for YouTube. I only rarely ever see a brief part of a sponsor ad, and never see YouTube’s own ads.

    Untrap lets you modify nearly anything about YouTube like even removing the view count and channel avatars, among many other options.

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    If you’re on desktop, download FreeTube. No more ads, ever. No more jittery youtube videos even though you have 300mbs down, you can download any video in app at max speeds, and its not algorithm fed. I imported my subscriptions, and now if I want to see something new I can use the not broken search function. Its like early early youtube and its wonderful!

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      It’s a bit of a faff, but I use FreeTube to grab the URLs which I then drop into a yt-dlp command that I use to download my subscriptions to watch on Plex on my Apple TV. Works a treat, though I wish I could get Plex to display them properly.

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        Why not just use tubesync? There’s another one like youtube archivist or something as well. If you already have a Plex server you probably have the skills to set it up.

        https://github.com/meeb/tubesync

        Here’s the other that I’m aware of https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist

        I found tubesync kinda needs to be run on vpn if you don’t want YouTube to ban you during the initial sync, I assume the same is true for archivist. Works fine after that first sync tho (I’m actually using as an archive since people tend to take their stuff down once they change hobbies for some reason, so I literally was archiving whole channels).

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          Yeah, I’m aware of both of them but have spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to figure out how to get them to work. I’m fairly new to Linux, and the instructions for both seem to assume a certain amount of expertise.

          Oh, and as I type this I’ve remembered that I did manage to get one of them to work, but something to do with the way it downloads the videos means that you need to install a Plex plugin of some description because Plex won’t recognise the metadata or some shit.

          So for the time being I’m happy enough to fanny about with my manual method. Between my wife and I it takes up about ten minutes every couple of days, and that’s ok.

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            Yeah if small quantity it’s not too bad to do your way. I use jellyfin so everything shows up ok for me, although it’s weird to see the “wrong” thumbnails.

            For me I’ve got everything as a docker setup using https://docs.linuxserver.io/ They don’t have a tubesync one but I found they have good instructions for setting it up and that’s how I learned enough to do so on my own with tubesync. But there is def a curve there.

            My perfect ideal would be freetube as a web server just for browsing where I could hit the dl button and fire off a download command to my server, then it shows up in jellyfin or Plex. I… Haven’t found a way to do this seamlessly yet, but I’m always on the lookout

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      With the recent major update, Freetube implemented a new player which I like much better than the old one. With the new player, all keyboard shortcuts work well, that’s great for me because my Home Theatre PC is controlled by a wireless keyboard+touchpad.

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      Freetube is great but it’s also a source of endless frustration. Like if you walk away from your computer the stream times out and it won’t resume. Then it says “reload” and they never implemented a reload button so you have to navigate to something else. Except their navigation doesn’t work quite right so sometimes if you click too fast it stays on the new page after you try to go back to the one you wanted to reload. Rawr. (GitHub issues 1005, 1425, 1500, 1958, 4062, 4409, 5019, 5152, 6136, 6201)

      I use youtube-local which is great, but it’s more susceptible to breakage which is why I’m currently back on freetube and very very very frustrated.

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        There’s no reload button directly in the UI, but if you press alt and then go to View > Reload or View > Force Reload. It’s not ideal, but it does work.

        Edit: Didn’t finish reading your comment, I’ve never experienced any of those issues, especially with navigation.

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        In Freetube, reload is ctrl-R on Linux and Windows, and cmd-R on Mac. I have experienced the fact that if you leave a video paused for a long time (hours) then you need to refresh. If you have history active, after refreshing the video will resume from where you left, which by the way is better then actual YouTube where it will often resume from an earlier timestamp. I have not experienced the other issues you mentioned.

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          Yeah I learned that when I looked up the issue number, very disappointed that it’s Ctrl+R instead of the canonical reload button for the last 30 years (F5). :(

          Since you knew Ctrl+r you wouldn’t experience those issues. That’s a side effect of “reload” without a reload button.

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              But since F5 is and has been for 30 years the universal refresh button I never needed to learn that some software uses a different, undiscoverable key combination.

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      Seconded. Tis a beautiful experience. And if you are currently using FreeTube, please throw a donation their way. They are putting a lot of work in to this app.

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      I still use yt-dlp to download because I don’t understand Freetube’s options. It’s either only audio or video

      Also if you’re on Linux and you get a white screen during playback (has been an issue since 0.22) this fix works for me: freetube --enable-features=''

      edit: posting a vertical pic messes the webpage a bit. If it’s annoying tell me

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    Good joke, YouTube.

    Ah yes, but what about the violation to our time where we’ve had to sit through 30 second ~ 2 minute ads of over-dramatized ways for shitty companies to get us to buy shit we don’t want and subscribe to services we don’t need? What about those violations and those violations happen more frequently than us blocking your ads? The hell with you.

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          Who cares. These of people are YouTube addicts. Just stop using it, if you find it so unbearable.

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            Oh I totally agree with you, I was just making fun of the downvotes coming from hypocrites who don’t want to abandon their favorite megacorp but instead cry a river about ads.

            Now I hate ads like the next guy, but either I find a way to block them, or I move on.

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              Same here. These people are literally unable to vote with their wallet, not even metaphorically.

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              Well, sometimes you have to make choices: videos+ ads or nothing. Vote with your wallet, if you are to do so.

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                  That’s fine, if they’re able to do so. That’s why I wrote “sometimes”. I frankly fail to understand people’s addiction to YT. What’s more, Id really like all those crap YT, Twitch and the likes to disappear for good and go back to “written” internet. In this shitty era, a lot of useful info is actually buried in a crap load of self promotion and blabbering on those platforms (which I refuse to use).

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      I’m just so tired of ads nowadays, ads for cars i can’t afford, ads for crap i’m never going to buy, ads for the supermarket i’m going to no matter if they have some discount…it’s all useless and a waste of my time and invasion on my peace.

      I bought the devices, i pay for the internet connection and i pay the rent on this house, i decide what makes it inside my house.

      I don’t need this funny clip my supermarket made to market overpriced holiday food 46 times a day that lasts 60 seconds and is only funny the first time i see it. I’m not going to buy a tiny christmas cake that barely feeds a child for €15, realistically it’s value to me is €1,50 compared to my wage and amount of food i get in return. I’m buying store brand m&m’s and a loaf of bread like i do all year.

      If you can’t keep existing without shoveling truckloads of ads into my face, then go bankrupt…i don’t give a damn. You’re not worth €16 a month to me either or whatever the price is nowadays. Just fuck off i’ll get my entertainment elsewhere, heck i might dust off that ps4 and buy used dvd’s for 25 cents a piece.

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        Yeah and a couple of things:

        Malware has directly passed through as networks multiple times and neither the server of ads nor the ad network were able to be held responsible for it.

        Right now it is common for ads to show apps that look like something popular but deploy malware. Nobody is taking responsibility for any of it. Ad networks aren’t well policed.

        It is irresponsible for a user not to block ads IMO but I also get to decide what packets of data traverse my network just like any other person or company. As a consumer I do not have to be responsible or care if a business model succeeds or not.

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      Well, then don’t go on YouTube, or use peer tube. You are trading 30 seconds of your time for:

      • creators making the thing you so desperately want to watch
      • disk space to store it
      • bandwidth to send it around the world
      • compute to transcode it and process it
      • real estate and security for the premises
      • power for the datacenter
      • ac to cool the servers
      • wages of workers to maintain that whole infrastructure
      • wages of devs for the app
      • yes, profits for the company

      Of course, you can decide to not pay and steal it instead, just don’t act like you are morally entitled to do it.

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      I always wonder what part of the world those who do are in. Cuz I get the feeling YouTube is only doing this shit in certain regions. Or if it’s just a hiccup with the adblocker itself, because it was shown pretty early on when these reports first started being posted that it was an issue with AdBlock Plus as well as there being workarounds for uBlock Origin due to some buggy Firefox updates.

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      Peertube, but it’s really not nearly the replacement lemmy or mastodon are.

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        Yet. It’s still very new, and as enshittification increases, so will federated development.

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      No one understands the astronomical bandwidth, CPU/GPU intensive calcs, and data storage necessities required to do anything close to what YouTube currently does.

      There is no way under this warm sun that a fediverse version of YouTube will ever be feasible, unless someone like literally yourself is willing to pay extraordinary high amounts of money for all the required infrastructure and daily maintenance to run it.

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        At this point, I wonder how we can solve google’s youtube monopoly. Is it even doable? So overwhelming.

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          Simplest solution is to kill Google CEOs, anything else proposed as a solution will take longer than your entire lifetime.

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        What part of “bittorrent” do you not understand? I am really getting fucking sick and tired of people like you posting this bullshit FUD.

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          PeerTube uses WebTorrent protocol and it still doesn’t do well with the same quantity of bandwidth demands.

          Post your own self-hosted PeerTube instance for us all to use then, let’s see who’s correct. Otherwise provide a solution or shut the fuck up.

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        A “fediverse” version of Youtube already got made and subsequently killed, PopcornTime.

        The Bittorrent backbone already has plenty of media and can handle more bandwidth than we’d ever need to throw at it. Encrypted Onion Routing provides a degree of insurance against copyright cops, too. The only problems left to solve are automating the discovery of user-relevant content and avoiding the legal system long enough to write and popularize an open source app that puts it all together with a couch-friendly front-end.

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        I would want to see some data on costs, because I think you might be overselling the difficulty and cost a bit (I don’t actually know, just my good faith belief). Imagine if every content creator ran their own instance. Instead of needing to worry about every user coming to a single group of servers, the Creator only needs to worry about the cost of hosting their own content and the traffic they get.

        With the number of YouTubers who have to get sponsorships and Patreon anyway, it doesn’t really seem that infeasible or unreasonable to expect content creators to run their own thing or pay to have someone else to do it. Doesn’t seem like the YouTube money is that lucrative, anymore, so not like it would be all that different, either.

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          Several tried. Nothing as elaborate as cross dissemination, federation or whatever. But at least 5 to 10 years ago it proved to be almost impossible. Platforms like Rooster teeth, which was 100% subscription based, I think never broke even and still relied on YT ads for the majority of the revenue. Some big and small channels tried to at least just catalog, archive and serve their own videos and the costs still became astronomical really fast. Whenever you see one of those very old channels, most of them don’t conserve copies, let alone original source footage of their entire material. Everyone just delete their videos once they’ve been on YouTube for a month or so now, and they have to download their own videos when they want to reuse old footage.

          Storage is cheap today, yes, but video really eats storage at an alarming rate. Specially now that 4k is the standard. So you have to reuse storage over and over. Transcoding is also really fast and optimized with modern algorithms, but it takes specialized graphical cards and data centers charge a premium to use servers with such capacities. Self hosting will never be able to satisfy a moderate demand. Get anything above 100 users simultaneously transcoding videos and a non-specialized server will halt to a grind just on IO calls to hard drives alone.

          Once you consider all those factors it is obvious why YouTube is such a miracle.

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            Sure, but you’re assuming all content is on one server. With something like PeerTube, content is federated.

            That said, I don’t think federation is the solution here because a popular video is going to completely swamp that instance, but something P2P would probably work if you can stream from multiple seeders. Even if you copy like we do w/ Lemmy, you’d still end up with a handful of instances that are way more popular than the rest and those would get hammered if there’s a particularly popular video.

            If you can spread that $6B (ignoring bandwidth here) over 10M people, you end up with a very reasonable $600/year, and costs would go down as more people join the network. I also assume a lot of that is duplication to handle demand spikes, which is baked in to the P2P system, so a P2P system would probably be way cheaper to scale up.

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              but something P2P would probably work if you can stream from multiple seeders

              Which is, in fact, exactly how PeerTube works: it’s got BitTorrent built right into it.

              Frankly, it’s ridiculous how people keep harping on this “problem” as if it isn’t long since solved.

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                I thought it was largely federated? I don’t know how the internals work, so I don’t know what group of peers it’ll pull from.

                Regardless, the problem PeerTube has little to do with its technical foundation IMO, but the network effect. If we get people to start using it, either we’ll fix it or we’ll develop something better, but getting creators to move is the first step.

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              If you read the links, this includes their server clusters and employees across the entire world all doing complex load balancing and maintenance.

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                Sure, and none of that is necessary with a proper P2P system. If I’m torrenting something, it’ll naturally pull from seeders near me over seeders on the other side of the planet, so load balancing happens by every client being greedy.

                The complex load balancing is only necessary because it’s a centralized service.

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                  This protocol already exists and so does the system, PeerTube.

                  Why no significant quantity of people use it is apparent after you try it for a while; the entire server system cannot handle the commensurate volume of content and interactions that YouTube is popular for.

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            According to that first link, it costs $6.1 billion to $11.7 billion annually to run YouTube. Even if you segment that into niche video communities, it’ll still cost hundreds of millions of dollars annually to host it, if you get a decent amount of traffic.

            This is why YouTube is a monopoly. Because they have the ridiculous amount of money to throw at a “free” video hosting site. Any other video host would crumble under the weight of YouTube’s level of traffic. That’s also why some others, like Nebula, require a subscription model to function. Or any movie/TV show streaming service. They can’t afford to host that stuff for free.

            This is also why Google is so obsessed with cracking down on anti-ad software. That’s how they make the money that pays for YouTube.

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              According to this, as of Jan 2024 there were 14 Billion videos on Yt. So effectively a dollar and change to host a video for all YT users.

              Obviously it doesn’t work like that, but if the above commenter’s point was that I, a content creator, host my video and manage my own costs, and that video is linked via whatever federation, I can monetize and limit as needed as a creator, thus popular videos get paid to host, and unpopular videos are hosted for more or less table stakes because they’re only getting X hits per Month.

              Some kind of WordPress-like container with a built-in safety switch for overages and - hey presto. Well, it’s a thought anyway.

              I dunno, it seems do-able, even if the Great Unwashed are going to stick with YT and getting ads up the wazoo to see “I Stuffed My Face In A Fusion Reactor - Watch What Happens Next” and the like.

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        Monetization. Tumbleweed content-wise. Some content producers make content for money.

        Media reach: Content is stored, where the consumers look for it.

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      I love that the replies to you are half saying that it’s an impossible problem, and half linking to existing solutions.