Incredible. Since you clearly didn’t read any of this let me simplify it for you. The ICJ told Israel to leave Gaza and to allow more aid to go to Hamas.
So my question was: How do you make Hamas stop attacking Israel and killing innocent lives, just like they were on and before 10/7 or the start of the war?
I’m open to any suggestions that aren’t just “Let Hamas kill Jews”
If you think genociding a people should be able to be done without anyone violently resisting it, you’re far crazier than I expected you to be, and with the assumption I had to begin with, that saying a lot.
This is kind of the problem here. You say you want Israel to stop attacking Hamas because civilians are dying in the crossfire but you’re not thinking about the consequences of your suggestion.
Hamas has already stated that their goal is the death of all Jews. Leaving Hamas alone and going back to rockets being fired at Israel daily is not a solution - and if you think it is, you are a massive hypocrite.
I would love for Israel to leave Gaza. But October 7th has shown that Hamas cannot be allowed to exist. The only solution I can see, and I’m assuming Israel can see, is to wipe them out entirely while trying to keep civilian deaths to a minimum.
But again, let me know when you find another solution, I would be happy to hear it.
Demanding me to provide a permanent solution to a conflict that has lasted decades if not centuries is already unreasonable, but then trying to justify genocide with “b-b-b-b-ut if we don’t genocide them some of us might get hurt because they’re opposing us genociding them”?
Oh get over yourself. You’re defending people that want to commit genocide. Neither side is the good guys, we just so happen to be allied with Israel.
At least Israel is trying to keep casualties to a minimum, while Hamas themselves have repeatedly killed their own people to stoke further outrage.
I’m asking for another solution because I don’t want genocide, but the fact that you can’t name even one means that as far as I’m concerned, Israel is doing the best it can with the options it has.
You’re literally no different than the far right. You’re both extremists. They support a wannabe dictator and you support literal terrorists.
On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:
Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;
Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).
My Office submits that the war crimes alleged in these applications were committed in the context of an international armed conflict between Israel and Palestine, and a non-international armed conflict between Israel and Hamas (together with other Palestinian Armed Groups) running in parallel. We submit that the crimes against humanity charged were committed as part of a widespread and systematic attack against the Palestinian civilian population pursuant to State policy. These crimes, in our assessment, continue to this day.
My Office submits that the evidence we have collected, including interviews with survivors and eyewitnesses, authenticated video, photo and audio material, satellite imagery and statements from the alleged perpetrator group, shows that Israel has intentionally and systematically deprived the civilian population in all parts of Gaza of objects indispensable to human survival.
This occurred through the imposition of a total siege over Gaza that involved completely closing the three border crossing points, Rafah, Kerem Shalom and Erez, from 8 October 2023 for extended periods and then by arbitrarily restricting the transfer of essential supplies – including food and medicine – through the border crossings after they were reopened. The siege also included cutting off cross-border water pipelines from Israel to Gaza – Gazans’ principal source of clean water – for a prolonged period beginning 9 October 2023, and cutting off and hindering electricity supplies from at least 8 October 2023 until today. This took place alongside other attacks on civilians, including those queuing for food; obstruction of aid delivery by humanitarian agencies; and attacks on and killing of aid workers, which forced many agencies to cease or limit their operations in Gaza.
My Office submits that these acts were committed as part of a common plan to use starvation as a method of war and other acts of violence against the Gazan civilian population as a means to (i) eliminate Hamas; (ii) secure the return of the hostages which Hamas has abducted, and (iii) collectively punish the civilian population of Gaza, whom they perceived as a threat to Israel.
The effects of the use of starvation as a method of warfare, together with other attacks and collective punishment against the civilian population of Gaza are acute, visible and widely known, and have been confirmed by multiple witnesses interviewed by my Office, including local and international medical doctors. They include malnutrition, dehydration, profound suffering and an increasing number of deaths among the Palestinian population, including babies, other children, and women.
Incredible. Since you clearly didn’t read any of this let me simplify it for you. The ICJ told Israel to leave Gaza and to allow more aid to go to Hamas.
So my question was: How do you make Hamas stop attacking Israel and killing innocent lives, just like they were on and before 10/7 or the start of the war?
I’m open to any suggestions that aren’t just “Let Hamas kill Jews”
Perhaps start by not genociding them?
If you think genociding a people should be able to be done without anyone violently resisting it, you’re far crazier than I expected you to be, and with the assumption I had to begin with, that saying a lot.
So again, no solution at all.
This is kind of the problem here. You say you want Israel to stop attacking Hamas because civilians are dying in the crossfire but you’re not thinking about the consequences of your suggestion.
Hamas has already stated that their goal is the death of all Jews. Leaving Hamas alone and going back to rockets being fired at Israel daily is not a solution - and if you think it is, you are a massive hypocrite.
I would love for Israel to leave Gaza. But October 7th has shown that Hamas cannot be allowed to exist. The only solution I can see, and I’m assuming Israel can see, is to wipe them out entirely while trying to keep civilian deaths to a minimum.
But again, let me know when you find another solution, I would be happy to hear it.
Another solution THAN GENOCIDE?
You’re defending genocide.
Demanding me to provide a permanent solution to a conflict that has lasted decades if not centuries is already unreasonable, but then trying to justify genocide with “b-b-b-b-ut if we don’t genocide them some of us might get hurt because they’re opposing us genociding them”?
You’re disgusting.
Oh get over yourself. You’re defending people that want to commit genocide. Neither side is the good guys, we just so happen to be allied with Israel.
At least Israel is trying to keep casualties to a minimum, while Hamas themselves have repeatedly killed their own people to stoke further outrage.
I’m asking for another solution because I don’t want genocide, but the fact that you can’t name even one means that as far as I’m concerned, Israel is doing the best it can with the options it has.
You’re literally no different than the far right. You’re both extremists. They support a wannabe dictator and you support literal terrorists.
I’m against people actively committing a genocide.
You don’t seem to recognise that.
Are you on crack?
Israel purposefully bombs aid convoys and hospitals, killing women and children.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state
Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant
On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:
My Office submits that the war crimes alleged in these applications were committed in the context of an international armed conflict between Israel and Palestine, and a non-international armed conflict between Israel and Hamas (together with other Palestinian Armed Groups) running in parallel. We submit that the crimes against humanity charged were committed as part of a widespread and systematic attack against the Palestinian civilian population pursuant to State policy. These crimes, in our assessment, continue to this day.
My Office submits that the evidence we have collected, including interviews with survivors and eyewitnesses, authenticated video, photo and audio material, satellite imagery and statements from the alleged perpetrator group, shows that Israel has intentionally and systematically deprived the civilian population in all parts of Gaza of objects indispensable to human survival.
This occurred through the imposition of a total siege over Gaza that involved completely closing the three border crossing points, Rafah, Kerem Shalom and Erez, from 8 October 2023 for extended periods and then by arbitrarily restricting the transfer of essential supplies – including food and medicine – through the border crossings after they were reopened. The siege also included cutting off cross-border water pipelines from Israel to Gaza – Gazans’ principal source of clean water – for a prolonged period beginning 9 October 2023, and cutting off and hindering electricity supplies from at least 8 October 2023 until today. This took place alongside other attacks on civilians, including those queuing for food; obstruction of aid delivery by humanitarian agencies; and attacks on and killing of aid workers, which forced many agencies to cease or limit their operations in Gaza.
My Office submits that these acts were committed as part of a common plan to use starvation as a method of war and other acts of violence against the Gazan civilian population as a means to (i) eliminate Hamas; (ii) secure the return of the hostages which Hamas has abducted, and (iii) collectively punish the civilian population of Gaza, whom they perceived as a threat to Israel.
The effects of the use of starvation as a method of warfare, together with other attacks and collective punishment against the civilian population of Gaza are acute, visible and widely known, and have been confirmed by multiple witnesses interviewed by my Office, including local and international medical doctors. They include malnutrition, dehydration, profound suffering and an increasing number of deaths among the Palestinian population, including babies, other children, and women.