Good! So why the incendiary comments Linus made on Russians. It is so hard to say something like this:
"I have to expel them from the project due to a US law forced us to do it. However, I had trust on them all these years and they contributed a lot to the project (that is why they were working here). Now, I am against the law because we should not discriminate people for the origin. Moreover, the claim that they can harm the software is unwarranted because it is OPEN and many eyes are on it. Finally, this harms the entire Linux project because now makes it an “American"project rather than an global one. Sad times.”
Moreover, the claim that they can harm the software is unwarranted because it is OPEN and many eyes are on it.
The xz attack was an intentional backdoor put into a project that was “OPEN and many eyes are on it.” Also, it was discovered due to the way it was executing and not because someone found it in the source. The original assumption has been proven wrong.
I am also against Russian aggression on Ukraine! But would no ban any Russian because of that. The same I am completely against US occupying Iraq and 1/3 of Syria, yet never would occur to me not to hire an American because what their country does. I really don’t understand why is so hard to understand for Lemmy community the double standard.
Insults apart (to Russians, Floridians and Lemmy community) , I do not blame Ukrainians for anything, specially when they are the biggest victims here. I blame the secret cabinets who decides their destiny for power, let those decisions are from Washington or Moscow, but let me tell you for sure are no from Kyiv. Now, historically, if you live close to a mayor power you do not like much (think of Ukraine or Cuba), the best is to have a strong army but never to join another distant power thinking it will save you, they will just use you.
So when Ukrainians try to push for closer alignment with the EU it’s a Washington-backed color revolution and thus is no different than Russia rolling into the literal tanks.
Like, even if you’re not a Russian troll you’re still adopting a conspiracy theory that completely ignores any agency the Ukrainian people have.
Agreed. I would comply (US’s courts can be very hard with you if you don’t) but you can dismiss those Russians with honor and thank them for their contribution. Then, you can consider to move the foundation to a more free environment (Switzerland, Mexico, Spain,…)
He didn’t expel all Russians, just the ones working for sanctioned Russian companies.
https://social.kernel.org/notice/AnIv3IogdUsebImO6i
That would’ve been great for them to clarify earlier XD
RIGHT?? I was so disappointed until I learned that bit of context. Even the original article I read about it didn’t mention it
Well, this is The Register. Not exactly a paragon of stellar reporting here.
No, this is on Linus and the Linux Foundation
That would’ve generated fewer clicks. Sensationalism is always more profitable.
Some people would disagree with you https://lwn.net/Articles/995294/
Your own link 1) does not attest to that and 2) has a comment replying to it directly contradicting what it’s saying in the first place.
Good! So why the incendiary comments Linus made on Russians. It is so hard to say something like this: "I have to expel them from the project due to a US law forced us to do it. However, I had trust on them all these years and they contributed a lot to the project (that is why they were working here). Now, I am against the law because we should not discriminate people for the origin. Moreover, the claim that they can harm the software is unwarranted because it is OPEN and many eyes are on it. Finally, this harms the entire Linux project because now makes it an “American"project rather than an global one. Sad times.”
xz attack was an open source attack and it would be silly to assume that it was unique.
This has nothing to do with xz
I don’t think you understood their point.
What did I miss?
In response to:
The xz attack was an intentional backdoor put into a project that was “OPEN and many eyes are on it.” Also, it was discovered due to the way it was executing and not because someone found it in the source. The original assumption has been proven wrong.
Oh, yep I didn’t see that. Though definitely more eyes are on Linux than were on xz
I am also against Russian aggression on Ukraine! But would no ban any Russian because of that. The same I am completely against US occupying Iraq and 1/3 of Syria, yet never would occur to me not to hire an American because what their country does. I really don’t understand why is so hard to understand for Lemmy community the double standard.
Strange. In another comment just minutes ago, you were tacitly blaming Ukraine for being invaded, Kevinovich from Florida Oblast.
You can blame ukraine for being invaded and also being against russian aggression. You sound like you are trying to spin the narrative
Don’t ask for logical arguments from Russians trolls
Insults apart (to Russians, Floridians and Lemmy community) , I do not blame Ukrainians for anything, specially when they are the biggest victims here. I blame the secret cabinets who decides their destiny for power, let those decisions are from Washington or Moscow, but let me tell you for sure are no from Kyiv. Now, historically, if you live close to a mayor power you do not like much (think of Ukraine or Cuba), the best is to have a strong army but never to join another distant power thinking it will save you, they will just use you.
So when Ukrainians try to push for closer alignment with the EU it’s a Washington-backed color revolution and thus is no different than Russia rolling into the literal tanks.
Like, even if you’re not a Russian troll you’re still adopting a conspiracy theory that completely ignores any agency the Ukrainian people have.
You can get big fines if you don’t comply with sanctions though. And in the end Linux is an American foundation.
Linus was still an ass, though. All this drama is 100% his fault.
Agreed. I would comply (US’s courts can be very hard with you if you don’t) but you can dismiss those Russians with honor and thank them for their contribution. Then, you can consider to move the foundation to a more free environment (Switzerland, Mexico, Spain,…)
Have you noticed exactly how many Russians are bigots who support the mass murder of their neighbors?
I mean there’s probably a lot who don’t, but they’re busy firing missiles at civilians in Ukraine to get around their 15y work camp sentence.
You are going to find bigots in every country. In US the biggest political figures right now are a fascist and a genocide supporter.
Important context and a good decision