You think children with LGBTQ+ parents should be forbidden to discuss their families in class? You think transgender teenagers should be forced to tell their parents even if it opens them up to abuse and homelessness? What good does this do, and for whom?
Kids talk about their parents in school all the time. Teachers and counselors are trained to look for signs of abuse and work hand in hand with CPS. My mom was a middle school guidance counselor and did house calls all the time with CPS as well as helping kids get appointments with psychologists.
The largest population of homeless kids is LGBT kids thrown out of their homes. I have a friend who had his ribs broken at the age of 6 when his father threw him down a staircase. These are the kinds of people you are saying schools should be forced to out LGBT kids to. If kids aren’t out to their parents, not only is there probably a reason, but outing them is also a violation of their privacy and consent.
Tell me you don’t remember being a teenager without telling me you don’t remember. If you think kids shouldn’t lie to their parents, maybe you shouldn’t have yourself. Whether it was about smoking or drinking or just sneaking out to hang out with friends, I bet you lied all the time - everybody does. Now imagine if you had to hide something from the world for your own safety, and the government just said that if a teacher happens to hear that you have a boyfriend, they have to report that to your parents.
Also, you must be downing the Flavor-Aid if you think trans people are that easy to spot 100% of the time.
I have a transgender child, now adult, who told no one in the family until after high school because they didn’t know what was going on. It became increasingly clear to them and to us through their teens that something was amiss, but only came into clear focus for them relatively late. That sent them into a depression where they didn’t feel they could talk to anyone, including us. Only after a couple of crises, some therapy and treatment for the depression did they start taking steps to embrace their transition with the full support of their family. Even though they never faced any judgement from us, and have a lot of loving support, telling us was still difficult and scary for them. I can’t imagine how much harder it would be to go through all this with a judgemental or hostile family.
So I guess you think this is “completely ridiculous” and I don’t know what I’m talking about, but there is a lot teens don’t tell even the most sympathetic parents, and not necessarily because of a lack of trust but because some things need space to work through. I just get the impression you don’t have a lot of experience of parenting teenagers or, if you do, you don’t realize there’s a lot you don’t know, and that this is quite normal.
And I bet if being transgender was discussed in school, your kid could have figured out how to explain what was going on a lot faster and saved everyone a lot of pain.
This self discovery is what this bill is trying to stop. Cruelty is the point.
Would you rather children lie to their parents, or would you rather have those children be assaulted, abused, and potentially driven to suicide by those parents? Take your pick.
Bullshit, conservatives are realistic, and the majority in the USA based on the popular vote, house, senate, and Presidency. The people spoke, and they told liberals to shut the fuck up already. Read the room.
Ur missing the point. The purpose of the law is to ensure that ur kids are ur kids not the states kids. Its about government interference in ur family.
LMFAO You wouldn’t know what irony was if it ate your face.
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How could you possibly still believe this with it staring you right in the face and telling you what it truly is? You people are gullible fuckin turds.
They’re people, not property. If you’re afraid of your kid growing up to be anybody other than who you think they should be, then you’re a worthless coward.
That’s literally how being a parent has worked in a lot of people’s childhoods. How are you not aware of that? People are regularly imprisoned for literally beating children to death. Plenty of others just have the children taken away from them due to the physical abuse. Why do you think protective services for children exist in the first place?
You think children with LGBTQ+ parents should be forbidden to discuss their families in class? You think transgender teenagers should be forced to tell their parents even if it opens them up to abuse and homelessness? What good does this do, and for whom?
it isolates the child and only helps the abusers to be abusive.
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Said by someone whose parents aren’t abusive I presume.
Yeah no, welcome to the real world, there’s tons of fucked up parents out there that kids need to be protected from
Said by someone who was never a human teenager.
Everyone has lied to their parents. That’s just an unrealistic view of the world.
Or said by someone who is the abusive parent. The fact that they see nothing wrong with this law makes them sus.
Kids talk about their parents in school all the time. Teachers and counselors are trained to look for signs of abuse and work hand in hand with CPS. My mom was a middle school guidance counselor and did house calls all the time with CPS as well as helping kids get appointments with psychologists.
The largest population of homeless kids is LGBT kids thrown out of their homes. I have a friend who had his ribs broken at the age of 6 when his father threw him down a staircase. These are the kinds of people you are saying schools should be forced to out LGBT kids to. If kids aren’t out to their parents, not only is there probably a reason, but outing them is also a violation of their privacy and consent.
Tell me you don’t remember being a teenager without telling me you don’t remember. If you think kids shouldn’t lie to their parents, maybe you shouldn’t have yourself. Whether it was about smoking or drinking or just sneaking out to hang out with friends, I bet you lied all the time - everybody does. Now imagine if you had to hide something from the world for your own safety, and the government just said that if a teacher happens to hear that you have a boyfriend, they have to report that to your parents.
Also, you must be downing the Flavor-Aid if you think trans people are that easy to spot 100% of the time.
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You’re really saying if you saw her on the street you’d think it was a dude?
https://www.instagram.com/goldenchaos/p/Cydo3VmuuOn/
Get the fuck outta here.
I have a transgender child, now adult, who told no one in the family until after high school because they didn’t know what was going on. It became increasingly clear to them and to us through their teens that something was amiss, but only came into clear focus for them relatively late. That sent them into a depression where they didn’t feel they could talk to anyone, including us. Only after a couple of crises, some therapy and treatment for the depression did they start taking steps to embrace their transition with the full support of their family. Even though they never faced any judgement from us, and have a lot of loving support, telling us was still difficult and scary for them. I can’t imagine how much harder it would be to go through all this with a judgemental or hostile family.
So I guess you think this is “completely ridiculous” and I don’t know what I’m talking about, but there is a lot teens don’t tell even the most sympathetic parents, and not necessarily because of a lack of trust but because some things need space to work through. I just get the impression you don’t have a lot of experience of parenting teenagers or, if you do, you don’t realize there’s a lot you don’t know, and that this is quite normal.
And I bet if being transgender was discussed in school, your kid could have figured out how to explain what was going on a lot faster and saved everyone a lot of pain.
This self discovery is what this bill is trying to stop. Cruelty is the point.
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Would you rather children lie to their parents, or would you rather have those children be assaulted, abused, and potentially driven to suicide by those parents? Take your pick.
Fear mongering.
It’s called reality. Conservatives are hateful.
Bullshit, conservatives are realistic, and the majority in the USA based on the popular vote, house, senate, and Presidency. The people spoke, and they told liberals to shut the fuck up already. Read the room.
Ur missing the point. The purpose of the law is to ensure that ur kids are ur kids not the states kids. Its about government interference in ur family.
“no you don’t understand! People need to suffer because muh big gubment!”
-you
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What rights are you talking about here? The parent’s right to do what with their child in this situation?
‘Let me argue my point by bringing up something completely unrelated and pretending that it’s that same thing that we are arguing now’
This is you
LMFAO You wouldn’t know what irony was if it ate your face.
ITs RaElLy ImPoRtAnt tHaT I InVolvE tHe StaTE wItH mY ChIldS SeXualITy So ThE StaTE iS lEsS InVolVeD wITH mY ChILD
How could you possibly still believe this with it staring you right in the face and telling you what it truly is? You people are gullible fuckin turds.
They’re people, not property. If you’re afraid of your kid growing up to be anybody other than who you think they should be, then you’re a worthless coward.
They’re MY kids, and I’ll beat them if I WANT TO
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That’s literally how being a parent has worked in a lot of people’s childhoods. How are you not aware of that? People are regularly imprisoned for literally beating children to death. Plenty of others just have the children taken away from them due to the physical abuse. Why do you think protective services for children exist in the first place?
Cool. I bet you support abortion rights too? It’s not the government’s place to tell someone what to do with their body, right?
Absolutly. To say anything else would be double think.
That’s not at all what this is about.
Ignorant.