• gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Maybe it’s because free will exists.

    Then God shouldn’t have given it to us, still his fault, OP still applies

    Maybe there’s a greater purpose for what we call “evil” that results in more good.

    Then God should have given us the understanding of it so we’re not left to question him, OP still applies

    Maybe it’s a definitional thing, where “evil” to us is always going to be the most-evil existent thing so if existing evils were gone “evil” would still exist but it would consist of aggressive kitten licks or something. So “evil” can’t not exist, but it’s not because God can’t get rid of what we call “evil” now.

    Shitty point, we have a clear definition of what these evils are currently and yet nothing is done about them. Maybe if we somehow lived in a world that no longer had the evils we see today you’d have a point but this is just a silly one

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      6 days ago

      But free will cannot exist with an omniscient god, because if he knows everything, then everything is predetermined, giving us no free will and also making god evil for allowing all the suffering to happen. And if free will does exist god isnt omniscient

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      5 days ago

      Without free will, true worship cannot exist. (If God is God, he certainly has the right to create us for the sole purpose of worshipping him.)

      To your latter points, I agree that we know clearly what evil (a.k.a sin) is—sin is anything apart from God’s character (e.g. the fruit of the spirit to start).

      However, it’s not up to us to “get rid” of evil, that’s on God, and that’s exactly what he did when he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross as a substitute for the punishment we deserve, and when he rose from the grave he signified that substitution was complete. If we truly accept that fact, then God considers us saved (“redeemed”). And, one day Jesus will come back and eliminate evil once and for all.

      As to why God allowed evil to enter the world in the first place, well, that’s one of the cornerstone discussions of Christian theology, I can’t easily summarize that here. In short, a redeemed world can know God’s love and worship him more deeply than a world which was never fallen to begin with. (And again, if God is God, he absolutely has the right to create us—and all of creation—for the sole purpose of bringing him glory.) Here’s an excellent article that explains this more fully.