• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    You’re talking about the part of the economy that establishment media and politicians focus on.

    That part overwhelmingly measures how things are for the very rich while ignoring key metrics that better reflect how the ENTIRE economy is doing.

    I’m talking about the ENTIRE economy, which in fact has gotten steadily worse ever since the early 70s with the only major anomalies being for the WORSE.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah, true. I talk about what 99% of people know as the economy, bnp and all that crap.

      If you want to talk about something else, please do, but you shouldn’t use “economy” for that IMO, and trying to change what virtually everyone thinks “economy” stands for is just muddying the waters.

      If you had said, they are unhappier, there is more poverty etc. I would have said, yes you are perfectly right.

      But that wasn’t what was discussed.

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        I talk about what 99% of people know as the economy, bnp and all that crap.

        Well 99% of people have been gaslighted into believing a distortion so severe that it’s essentially a lie.

        If you want to talk about something else, please do, but you shouldn’t use “economy” for that IMO, and trying to change what virtually everyone thinks “economy” stands for is just muddying the waters.

        I couldn’t disagree more! To do what you’re asking of me would amount to accepting the lie and reinforcing it. The majority going along with a false narrative makes it MORE important to be clear about what’s ACTUALLY going on despite the establishment narrative, not less!

        that wasn’t what was discussed.

        Wrong again. An economy is “The [entire] system or range of economic activity in a country, region, or community.”, not just the parts that the establishment has tricked the larger population into focusing on in order to present a false impression that what’s good for their owner donors is good for the country.

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          3 days ago

          Oh, 99% of all people are wrong and only you and a handful of people are right.

          Well I don’t think you are, and so do the vast majority of the whole world. But keep believing if you’re happier that way.

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            99% is YOUR grossly exaggerated figure. More than 1% of the world knows enough to see through the establishment media and politicians’ lie.

            But yes, framing the small section of the economy that overwhelmingly affects the rich most as “the economy” IS wrong no matter how many people have been gaslighted into believing that it’s accurate.

            It’s the equivalent of basing the statistics of all car sales on how many limousines and Lamborghinis are sold.

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                  2 days ago

                  Wow you went on a down vote spred on my comments, how grown up lol. Guess that’s all you have when your arguments and goalpost movings all fall flat.

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                    First of all, I downvote misinformation and logical fallacies such as the appeals to authority and appeals to popularity (not to mention calling me and everyone else who disagree with you angry anti-US bigots 🙄) that your comments are littered with. That’s not being childish, that’s having standards.

                    Second, my arguments never “fell flat”, you just either didn’t understand or pretended not to understand.

                    Third, I never moved any goal posts. My argument has been that it’s misleading to the point of disinformation to characterize the aspects of the economy that disproportionately affect rich people as representing the economy as a whole, no matter how many authority figures perpetuate that falsehood and no matter how many people believe it, from the start.

                    TL;DR: You’ve been wrong from the start, you continue to be wrong, and no amount of projection is going to change that.