He called me a setter and a nazi out of the blue, and I asked him if he slanders everyone or if he has a reason for saying that about me, then he replies with this legendary quote:
If you’re Amerikan, then you live in the bowels of the single most brutal settler-colonial entity to exist in the modern era. “Settling” is not a once-and-done action; it is a constant state as long as you are on settled land.
Colonialism was terrible, but technically all land is settled. Humans always moved and settled somewhere else, even before we could be classified as homo sapiens, and that was often brutal too when we encountered others. There’s ultimately no space where we truly came from or belong to.
Ethnic cleansing and ethnonationalism is okay as long as it’s anti-West, clearly.
I mean they aren’t wrong. Just because the natives have been exterminated doesn’t change the fact that they were here first.
Native Americans have not been exterminated at all, we are very much here. We’re like the Borg, we adapt. Example: [Cherokee.org]
I’m pretty sure exterminated is the wrong term…
The “natives” are still around you know
A fraction of a fraction remain. Entire tribes have been lost to time. Exterminated is appropriate.
No, it’s really not. Please look into the Cherokee Nation, you will be shocked how far we’ve come.
As a white American descendant of colonial settlers, they’re not entirely wrong, it’s just that their anger is misdirected. It should be directed at those in power rather than regular people. It’s unreasonable to expect all descendants of colonial settlers to leave, but it’s not unreasonable to ask them to be aware of their history and how the systems of power and control that were put in place then are still going strong today.
Given I can’t see your original comment they were responding to I’ll reserve judgement regarding whether what they said is reasonable.
Honestly it all is ludicrous. You absolutely should know your history but trying to hold every white person in existence liable for the actions of people who died long before we were all born is silly. You can’t change the past you can only make the future. You might as well blame my dog for the suffering of the past. It accomplishes nothing. What’s worse is that some people have developed a complex about the history especially if they of a race that was harmed historically.
Don’t blame people alive today for mistakes and cruelty of the past. That is unfair to everyone involved.
trying to hold every white person in existence liable for the actions of people who died long before we were all born is silly.
Nobody is trying to do that, and you know it.
If you click on the link you can see someone call for my death only because I’m american, so yeah.
Also I was banned from Lemmy.ml for being a bigot when I called them an idiot, but the incitement of violence is still there
Some truth there… but kinda odd to be spazzing about america when Israel is genociding people to settle Palestine as we speak lol
Man people out here really just trying to make everything related to the conflict, huh? Switch off lol
nah, mate
alright, well, just be mindful of history because it gets very complicated very fast, especially when it comes to settlement and genocide
Why not? Amerikkkans don’t have an ethnicity or culture anyway
Uhhhhh… then we’d be settling some other place??? how do yo not get this?
They do tho
It’s cute how hard you try to be inflammatory.