@kameecoding enjoying and it being taxing aren’t really relayed. Driving takes effort that sitting on a bus doesn’t

@WaterFoul you don’t get all the benefit till all the pieces are there.

@Dalaryous @Global_Liberty tiny cars only reduce parking space, they take up essentially the same amount of road at speed.

@WaterFoul @TipsyMcGee I think you over estimate how much needs to be rebuilt. Just replacing shopping strips with low rise homes with ground floor retail and allowing for housing in fill around them gets you there. Building an excellent bus interchange in the giant carpark is easy too.

@kameecoding @pineapple yes, spending all your day driving is exhausting. With good PT that day of errands is quite enjoyable.

@WoodScientist @buzz86us I wouldn’t advocate doing it in that order, but you are right.

@Lv_InSaNe_vL @Malfeasant I’m happy to limit the ‘no personal cars’ to areas that are 1/4 acre blocks and below. (Remembering that a 1/4 acre block gets back a substantial amount of useful land when you delete the driveway, so blocks all become ‘bigger’ in such a system)

Places that are substantially less dense than that do benefit from cars. But that isn’t that large a % of people, while it is a very large % of the land mass.

@faythofdragons @pineapple shitty PT is not the goal. Yes there are PT systems that are shit, that doesn’t mean good PT is worse than good individual car ownership (something I’ve never heard of), it just means shitty PT need to be less shitty.

@pseudo @jagged_circle It had a pretty good viewership in Australia too. I think it did pretty well in a lot of countries.

@Ghost33313 @Global_Liberty And that applies to 0 Cybertruck owners.

@9point6 @scrubbles the $500 a month for a second hand lease?

Converting that to Aussie, we’ll call it $800 a month. My wife visits the office twice a week, by Uber at 8pm her one way commute would be $42. That is safely an under estimate as peak traffic makes that much worse.

2 x 2 x 4 = 16 trips a month is $672 a month on taxi’s for that commute. A commute that is infrequent, and less than half the distance to the city from our suburb.

Yes that is before other car costs, but other trips too

@RandAlThor Australia first, we are already in the ESC ;)

@Almacca @Global_Liberty Yep, and someone should be in jail for it.

But also, nothing will happen, Tesla will keep failing.

@singletona I’ve heard plenty about car centric design killing main street. Interesting what different parts people hear.

@GeneralEmergency probably, but it can be hard to see that context when your in it :)

Maybe it’s the general idea that main streets are dying in the concept of people should drive to every store, and stores that do this take away value from being able to walk between stores.

@jaybone I’d rather not have a 40m gap of nothing in the middle of main street.

@Pregnenolone I have trouble seeing the giant corp as the victim

@Pregnenolone Then don’t have a shop on main street

@lgsp bike helmets are pretty much useless :)

@culpritus @krakenfury I mean they think that driving a car 4 hours to work is a sane solution.