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Cake day: March 29th, 2022

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  • I guess my question is just to what degree is there pushback against this in the Ukraine ?

    No idea, there is no trustworthy info about it. Nothing major though, but i imagine country in which army is openly kidnapping and harassing people and where opposition is jailed or murdered by fascist mobs might have this supressed.

    previously existing ukrainian orthodox church was far removed from Russia already

    Doctrinally and thologically there is zero diferences, politically yes, although the schism was only in 2019, so you can see it’s very recent development, i wouldn’t be surprised to see US money in that, it wouldn’t be even first time nor the 100th where orthodox church took US money for working against people.


  • I had read libs mostly just getting in line with pavlov’s dog reflex of supporting and excusing anything Ukraine did, so i meant this post as mostly yet another point out their hipocrisy because they constantly cry about so called religious persecution in China or USSR.

    Surely this is an unpopular move with vast swathes of Ukrainian population ?

    Definitely although hard to say how exactly because the ones openly belonging to the Moscow Patriarchate are being gradually deplatformed for years.

    I know many of them take their Catholicism seriously

    It’s not catholicism, there are below 8% of catholics in Ukraine, it’s state sponsored schism in the orthodox church, purely politically motivated and although the docrine remains the same the new de facto state religion supports the ukronazi actions very much and entire situation looks kinda like church support for ustase during ww2, though in this case the Kiev church is more of a puppet, after all, every sincgle church that didn’t complied ended up shaken up by Kiev goons with confiscates and priest imprisonments.
    Legality of the schism is also kinda dubious, because even if other patriarchates recognized it, Moscow didn’t so it’s outside meddling, something previously heavily criticized in orthodox church.

    its not like this church was some bastion of Soviet society, deeply reactionary institution already

    Eh i wish this opinion was more popular in leftist circles, but alas. Again, personally i wish unilimited schisms on all churches but i don’t wish to see banderites also becoming ustase.