1.5 million dollars a year.

I mean they were openly fascist then, too. Its just that you had (more) liberals and centrists running interference for conservatives to defend the fascistic aspects of their own ideology.

I mean, I agree entirely with the “abolish the police” movement. I don’t think policing in the US is recoverable. Its rotten to the core. Its a remnant of slavery. In that sense I’m an abolitionist.

But I also think its a thing that “law enforcement” is a thing that will be expected to happen. So if you are going to abolish policing as we currently know it, you need to replace it with something different.

The fascism of the Nazis assuredly felt unstoppable and insurmountable, at the time. And until people made an effort to stop it, it was.

People, just make sure you let your garlic over winter.

Since we’re engaging in fantasy, sure.

But I think you’ll find no matter what you do, some version of a person whose role in society is to enforce the laws, a kind of “law enforcement”, emerges.

The properties of that role can vary widely from society to society, but pretty much every society independently comes to the same conclusion, that the role is necessary, once the society determines a common and well structured code of conduct is necessary.

100% abolish the police. They are a corrupt institution which finds their roots in re-enforcing a slave culture. 100% let every prisoner free. The roots of the prison system in the US are the same as the police state.

But countries with no history of slavery have police forces and prison systems. They are an emergent property of large social systems. Society will re-invent the role. We might as well fill the niche in a manner we want, instead of a manner we dont want.

eh.

Think about a surgeon. We put peoples lives in their hands. We expect them to be preposterously educated, able to perform extreme tasks under significant duress, to maintain ongoing technical and specialized training, to prove that the training is effective, and they are compensated accordingly. If they fuck up, they can be held personally liable for their fuck ups. There are consequences to the career and its not a role to be taken on lightly.

Hear me out.

We raise the amount we pay cops to 1.5 million dollars a year… but.

No qualified immunity. It no longer exists (guess what? it already doesn’t exist for military service members). Any crimes they commit, the consequences are 10x’d and they are no longer allowed to engage in public service, ever. They can be publicly executed for any crimes beyond misdemeanor. They have to pay for their own equipment. They have to carry liability insurance for any violations of civil rights which might occur in the line of performing their duties.

The minimum qualification is a PhD in constitutional law. They need to be able to run a 6 minute mile, do 100 push ups in 2 minutes, 200 sit ups in 2 minutes, and 80 burpees in 2 minutes. They need to be able to carry 120 lbs for 10 minutes up an incline. They need to be able to recite the US Constitution, the state constitution, and the local city and county charters where they are stationed. They are expected to have advanced knowledge of any and all laws they are expected to be enforcing. They have to undergo annual psychological, physical, technical, and legal reassessments to prove their suitability for the job; these reassessments are maintained as a part of public record.

We 10x the pay and we hire 1/10th the number of cops. It becomes a career path somewhere between than a doctor or a lawyer or an astronaut. Its not something a HS drop out should be able to consider as a career path.

Look, obviously, hyperbole. Or is it?

I think they have a kind of understanding.

The understand that they are wrong, and that the consequence of their wrongness is Trumpism. However, they also understand that if they were to acknowledge that they are wrong, they would lose power.

For people like this, its more about maintaining individual power, than it is opposing fascism. Its the same for the apologists.

I only have room left in my inventory for the bc pills.

Agree, and I’ve been to some pretty rough Rocky Horror Picture shows.

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Solidarity. They shall never be allowed to forget and the should never be allowed to live down the material damage they did to this community, and that effectively, they were the useful idiots who handed the office of president to Trump, by insisting on strategies and tactics that were doomed to fail.

Theater.

Elon Musk is playing the part of “heel”, and articles and reporting like this is engineered to “take you in” to the moment, where something can be simplified and reduced to a “good” versus “evil” paradigm. It creates an escape clause for those doing the truly villainous where the heel can be pointed to as “worse”.

Just gonna have to keep repeating it. If this is how you proceed through the world; if this is the mentality you approach elections in the US with: you will continue to lose.

Bruh you are the least qualified person on the planet to be commenting on what reality is.

Your “reality” cost the country its Democracy.

Supporting Joe Biden when there was -> 0 <- fucking chance he could win, and it was obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together; if that was you, Trump is your fucking fault.

And not just supporting him, admonishing ANYONE AND EVERYONE who was pointing out that the strategic approach you were insisting on was a fucking disaster. That’s on you fam. At least your crime is on record.

And if you STILL walking around with this lessor evil mentality, a mentality that WILL lose the next election if imposed in support of a shitty candidate, who stands for nothing, who fights for nothing, who represents nothing but genocide and the defense of a corporate power structure: You WILL lose the next election if you can’t fix yourself.

gefilldafish

This is the kind of mindset that resulted in running Biden long enough that we didn’t have a real primary, and Trump winning.

oops.

Theater.