Not to be that guy, but exactly what kind of conversation are we supposed to have with fascists and people openly calling for an end to both your and my liberties?

Ideas are debatable, but there’s no debating that we all deserve to live and to exist. But I’ve ever only encountered far too many people from the right openly calling for the opposite of that. My own existence to them is offensive and worthy of murder. I want to have no conversation with such people, but you seem to be willing to tolerate that for the sake of “just having a conversation”.

By definition, if you live in the US, you live a country from the “first world” bloc (ie. The western bloc)

Please stop using the term “third world” to mean poor country

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It isn’t necessarily my personal view, its what I’ve experienced empirically throughout certain forum based internet spaces

Unless you ran experiments/collected data (in which case, I woul genuinely love to see that) to gather such info, your “empirical” data is just observation-based. In which case, it can be skewed.

I’ve noticed your account is relatively new. So of course if one were to hang out with centrists and/or on Reddit, the average experience would be unbalanced as the typical use of the term tankie would be viewed as “generic insult to a person on the political left”.

But on Lemmy I’ve noticed far more people using the term tankie accurately to describe a specific fringe of the leftist movement. The type of fringe that, for example, still defends the USSR no matter what and is incapable of criticizing authoritarianisms.

Having said all of this…welcome to Lemmy! Lol hope you like it here :)

I see tankie used far more as a pejorative Term for leftists (socialists, communists and or anarchists) than actually being used with any nuance to criticize authoritarian apologia

Your view is incorrect. It can be both. There are people who will absolutely use tankie as a generic insult for “person on the political left”. But it’s also a specific term within leftist movements to criticize specific issues with other leftists (I.e., defending authoritarianism, an either-with-us-or-against-us mentality, unconditional love for the USSR/China, etc)

One can draw parallels between capitalism’s failures and the successes of authoritarian socialist/ communist regimes without praising authoritarianism

This is very true. But, by the latter definition I gave, a tankie would actually not do that. We’re having a conversation that has been had thousands of times before by leftist people about the more radical wings within their communities

One can also condemn authoritarianism while also acknowledging that one form of authoritarianism will be or is worse than another

By definition, one who has that level of nuance, would not be called a tankie. Now, obviously a user can just use the term tankie as a generic insult for “you leftist”, but that’s when nuance comes into play. Sadly, we’re are talking about instances that are very much incapable of such level of nuance.

Those are my thoughts as someone who was literally a member of my country’s communist party and left that same party precisely because of the issues I mentioned within the second definition. And based on my experiences, instances like Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are absolutely that type of tankie.

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No one’s making you do anything

Just like no one is forcing you to be an ahole, yet here we are ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Exercise and self-control

Said the user cussing out everyone in this thread lmao. The irony is as high as your lack of awareness

Can you block me too? I’d hate having to read more hissy fits from such an insufferable ahole like you lmao

No, you most definitely did not get it

Advocates are urging the Biden administration to act quickly

Why? The Liberals and Democrats as a whole acted as if everything was fine for the past 4 years. They only appointed Jack Smith 2 years after Jan 6.

They don’t need to act quickly because they are not the ones facing the bulk of consequences. Biden did not and could not care less because his party doesn’t see fascism as the existential threat that it is

Edit: if you think I’m exaggerating, remember when a few weeks before dropping out, Biden explicitily said that if he lost against Trump, he would’ve been happy with himself because at least he gave it all? Yeah. That’s not the reaction of someone who truly sees fascism as a cancer to society and democracy