im not so sure the devs have fault in any of this though

dont blame me for the opinions of someone else. Just note how hipocritical you sound by dismissing criticism of the us while criticizing russia. Why not both?

your conditions are too specific. what the US did to Iraq, Vietnam, Korea,… is already bad enough. But these dont qualify because they arent neighbors of the us, and the intentions arent exactly what you listed. still, these are already bad enough.

i doubt the effort would be actually equal. dont know about ny, but where im from, the double standard is blatant

looking at these is disturbing me a little

yes, the internet wasnt built on charity