• 31337@sh.itjust.works
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      Things are quite different. While Trump was in office, he did multiple things that were worse than what Nixon did, and was never forced to leave office. I think our institutions were stronger back then. We didn’t have a very good democracy when Hoover was president, and it took many decades for the Voting Rights Act to get passed (which has recently been weakened by SCOTUS, and will probably be weakened much more). I think we’ll regress quite a bit. Republicans obviously want more of an autocracy/oligarchy. I think it’s a very real possibility we have Russia-style “elections” in the future, and I don’t even know how you come back from that. Assuming democracy isn’t completely destroyed, it may take many decades of fighting and changing the minds of the people who aren’t disenfranchised to get back to where we were. Hell, even civil war is on the table if Trump follows through on some of his more egregious promises (i.e. if he deems Democratic state governments as the “enemy within” and tries to use the military to depose them).

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      You’re making this statement while standing over a dead body. Need to pause for a moment and smell the flesh starting to turn right beneath you. This is that moment. There was never going to be a letter embossed with a seal sent to you to announce it. America is dead, our neighbors quietly suffocated it with a pillow. And today is the next day. The changes will be quieter, more subtle at first, but longer reaching, more impactful and longer lasting.

      trump wasn’t elected, a train, driven by hate and fear, overflowing with explosives that’s been fixed on everything you think you know about America was elected. The holocaust branded with trump’s name will be quieter, I imagine it will take longer, but it will probably collectively kill more.

      America is the name of a country that used to attempt to maintain democracy. It’s the country the failed that mission in 2024. Anything you hear otherwise is self soothing. You’re entitled to it though, we all are, because hope is dead and that’s what used to bring us back to earth in difficult moments.

      People are not basically good. People don’t “come to their senses” and we’re all just so fixing tired while they are all just in so much fucking adderall.

      • musk will be in charge of the National Highway transportation safety board

      • rfk jr will oversee vaccine production/distribution

      • abbott will lead formation of the National laws on abortion and miscarriage

      • joe rogan will be the named author on a new fairness doctrine (that won’t actually be)

      • tim scott and lindsey graham will co-chair the committee on reforming LGBTQIA+ rights

      • steve bannon will be on every month’s cover of normal skin magazine

      • that church guy and trump’s close buddy that just got in trouble for abusing kids will be in charge of repealing the sex offender registry

      • mike johnson’s son will be in charge of porn

      • betsy devos will come back to finish devastating the DOE as public education is killed in favor of vouchers to religious schools

      • and brawndo will be what plants crave.

      Maybe those of you that stayed home will actually read protect 2025 now. It’s all going to happen.

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        America is dead

        You’re thirty years to late to write The End of History. Fukuyama wasn’t right about it then, either.

        Maybe those of you that stayed home

        Speak for yourself. She only lost because you didn’t vote hard enough.

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        The holocaust branded with trump’s name

        Bullshit, Harris Biden and the DNC are 100% oboard with it too. Its a little late for lies isnt it?

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            Sure, Bud.

            We are all a bit stunned, but we have 4 years to think about what happened and why. Lets not just jump to an easy conclusion on hour 1 day 1.

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              It’s not an easy conclusion - what’s easy is for you to glance past the reality in my statement and to ignore the implication that, yes, It is a part of a greater set of causes, but I was stating that it was the deciding factor that ultimately decided this on day one when she announced.

              Calm down, listen, think, respond.

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                Calm down? Was my saying we now have 4 years to ponder this deeply something that sounded rushed to you? Time to avail myself of that handy “block user” button.