• KNova@infosec.pub
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    7 days ago

    I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

    I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning. People just want to hurt someone now because they are hurt - it doesn’t matter if they are punching left or right, if they perceive something as landing, it makes them feel better.

    I am seeing Liberals online blaming minorities for not showing up when the reality is, across the board Dem voters didn’t show up.

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        7 days ago

        Stop blaming the voters. It’s the same shit every damn time. The DNC failed America. After Clinton they should’ve learned, but they just do the same shit every time.

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          Exactly. Blaming others before recognizing your own shortcomings is a shitty strategy and it will only serve to alienate people who could otherwise be your champion if you didn’t attack them.

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      The most I’ve seen anyone able to manifest is that she wasn’t an old white man, and instead, she was too radical, because she was black, indian, and a woman. I have seen milquetoast liberals saying this, black people saying this, indians saying this, and women saying this. I don’t really know how true it is, and I guess I never will know because she really didn’t run a good enough campaign for me to actually run any sort of postmortem analysis relative to someone else’s real turnout, because she wasn’t even a baseline democrat, she ran below the baseline in terms of promises. She campaigned with dick “killed a million people” cheney and his wife. I dunno. somehow I don’t believe that it’s because democrat voters are just super racist or sexist or whatever.

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        In hindsight, I think the big issue with her campaign was simply how little time they had. We should have done an actual fucking primary, or Biden should have bowed out sooner, or at bare minimum she should have simply been as inescapably in the headlines as humanly possible because apparently there’s a contingent of dense enough motherfuckers out there that people were searching who was running on election day.

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          I dunno, I think it was mostly that they wanted joe to step down later on in order to justify not having a primary, and dispelling a populist candidate, like tim walz may have been, a populist candidate which goes against the interests of the donors, and could’ve still probably gone through with a ton of funding and a groundswell of support regardless (see: kamala getting 1 billion dollars), from the running. Then, they can run kamala by default, and it doesn’t matter whether or not she really wins or loses, as she’s still campaigning on basically the platform that the republicans of 2016 were running on. I dunno so much if the time was the problem, other countries have full elections in as much time, I think the real problem was the electoral calculus that runs everything the scenes, as it has always been, and I think a lot of people got their brain cooked by brat summer and coconut memes into believing this was somehow going to be any better than 2016.

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          7 days ago

          contingent of dense enough motherfuckers

          I believe you could have shortened this to “America”.

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      7 days ago

      I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

      They’ll usually blame one of those marginalized groups they claim you hate if you don’t support them. Joe Scarborough blamed Democrats’ support of trans rights. After months of being told that I needed to back the Democrats for the safety of LGBTQ+ community, it was amazing to see how quickly he threw them under the bus.

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        Nobody who calls themselves a Democrat or leftist or whatever label you want to apply to yourself other than “right wing dipshit” should EVER listen to anything Joe Scarborough has to say. He is a right wing grifter just like Ben Shapiro, he just happens to have the support of MSNBC or whatever network he is on now.

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          You understand that’s Biden’s favorite morning show host, right? I don’t disagree with your assessment of him, but you might want to consider his opinions may be much more aligned with the Democratic leadership than you think.

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      I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

      When I do I get nonsense about hope and change and how leftists didn’t show up when they should have to prevent fascism.