https://lemmy.ml/post/28111691/17749466

This is actually insane. Another user was criticizing the New Deal era and brought up a bunch of points, I commented refuting a bunch of their points but describing two of of them, Japanese Internment and the Red Scare, simply as “legitimate criticism.”

@[email protected] responded “No they’re not. Those two things were caused by far greater international factors. Like, you know, the 2nd World War.”

I cited a commission that found that internment was not caused by a legitimate threat posed by the Japanese but was rather caused by racism and hysteria, and that even Reagan agreed with that conclusion and signed a bill paying reparations to the victims.

Well then the mod responded that I was jumping to “inflammatory conclusions” and “personal attacks” because I assumed that when they said that criticism of internment is not legitimate it meant that they were defending internment. They continued to refuse to explain how else I was possibly supposed to interpret such a claim. I still have no idea. Apparently their stance is, “It’s not legitimate to criticize the thing I oppose.” If anyone can make sense of that, please enlighten me.

Since they refused to explain, I took a guess that maybe the misunderstanding was that they were interpreting “legitimate criticism” as “damning criticism,” like that because a bad thing happened during that era, nothing good came of it at all. I made it clear that this was speculation and that any criticism of interpreting it that way only applied if that’s what was happening.

The mod responded by permabanning me, removing all of my comments so they don’t show in the modlog, and adding this:

Edit: the other commenter essentially proved that they were just baiting people into inflammatory discussion. They kept resorting to personal attacks and flip-flopped on their position solely to continue arguing. This behavior is not tolerated here. Please report such trolls in the future.

At literally no point did I “flip-flop” my position of “internment was bad, actually.” Nor did I “bait” them, unless “criticizing internment is legitimate,” is somehow “baiting” someone into saying “no it isn’t.” By far the most “inflammatory” thing that was said was when they said that criticism of internment was “not legitimate.” The “personal attacks” I made were stating the fact that the position they had expressed was to the right of Reagan on the issue, and also making a quip about a .world mod defending the Red scare and Joseph McCarthy.

This seems to be a case of a clear case of PTB, the mod apparently misspoke but because they’re a mod they can just ban people for calling them out instead of owning up to it.

Edit: My comments are still visible on kbin.earth (thank you @[email protected]) so I can provide screenshots:

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    PTB, it’s well known that Lemmy.ml mods are power trippers and the fact that he ticked remove content on ban so the comments wouldn’t show in the log seems telling enough. It’s a well known trick mods on Lemmy use to make sure there isn’t a modlog record of the comments they removed from a person.

    If I were you I’d recommend blocking all their communities and not engaging there anymore, but an even better idea would be simply to migrate to another instance and then block lemmy.ml. I’d say that’s the best thing you can do since lemmy.ml admins have also been known to power trip in similar ways.

    Edit: Whoops it was a .world mod, well I think my main point still stands, would be best to block those communities.

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            My original assumption was that he was on lemmy.ml. I wouldn’t advocate moving to lemmy.world since it’s a very large instance, though blocking Lemmy.world can be hard since it’s a very large instance. They should absolutely block the community that banned them and any others modded by that same mod.

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              I block communities that ban me, I’m not interested in seeing things I can’t respond to or where my views aren’t welcome.

              This mod is also on the “Lemmy Shitpost” comm which is one of the better ones on .world, and the mod team there is different so I’m not going to block it preemptively. Half the time .world mods only have a problem if I’m talking to them directly, as in this case, it’s basically like Bo Burnham’s “Socko” bit where he only takes issue with it once it turns its criticism towards him.

              I don’t really believe in holding back criticism because the person has an [M] next to their name or I wouldn’t have gotten banned here, and it’s not the first time. They’re fine with other people criticizing internment, because they weren’t talking to them or directly criticizing their take on it.

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        Lemmt.world has the same exact issue except news and politics communities are operated by regime whores and DNC komissars