In the dusty outskirts of Seminole, Texas - just past the cotton fields and under the relentless spring sun - Peter Hildebrand stands outside a gas station, his eyes rimmed red and voice cracking.
This reflects my experience growing up with a religion really accurately. What really kills you in the end, is that you took it seriously, when you come out of it you realize no one else was.
I think many people take religion seriously. They wouldn’t spend so much time and money on it if they didn’t. But religion doesn’t change their values. Rather, their values shape what aspects of the religion they care about.
The incidence of abuse among pastors, while abhorrent, is lower than the general population.
Yes it is a horrible crime that pastors abuse their authority to harm children
Statistically, they are still safer with pastors than their own uncles and aunts.
But everyone on lemmy hates religion.
You know this was a big problem in my day, ‘Stranger danger’.
The VAST majority of abuse cases are by someone the child knows and is related to, but so much time and effort was put in to make the public freak out about a vast army of anonymous pedophiles all plotting to kidnap their children that so many domestic cases were swept under the rug for more salacious public targets (that mostly turned out to be innocent and had their lives ruined anyway by people like you)
But please keep up with the memes because you like to shit on religion so much
That’s a gross oversimplification. You do know most pastors that do that have to get close with the kids in the first place for it to happen… they don’t just see a kid on first day and go for it. They’re predators that try to build trust at first under the guise of religion being safe and trustworthy.
Good thing they just ship them off to another church once they’re found out? I’m sure plenty of cases get swept under the rug because psycho-Christian families believe it was “God’s plan” or some bs.
And I will happily shit on religion all day :) “god” and jesus can choke on my nuts
no, abusers flock to all kinds of power. The common theme is that they are abusers, not that they are religious or political or rich or well connected, abusers will seek ways to be shielded for abuse
if you look at every reasonable metric the BY FAR source of power in child sexual abuse is parental or familial.
You just want to pretend this isn’t the case because it deflates a favorite scapegoat of yours.
It doesn’t matter what language or form is taken to justify the abuse, it is all abhorrent. You take special exception to religion because you are weak minded
I enjoyed church as a kid because it was the one place they COULDN’T just beat the shit out of me for no reason. But still, the indoctrination, lies, manipulation, twisted fucked up world view, and sexual repression are all things ALSO fucking up my adult life. The abuse abuse was a much harder thing to live through and accepting that recovery is a lifetime process not a goal with a possible ending is fucking horrifying, but you know. They both did register as shit I wish I never went through.
It’s a good thing your here to be a piece of shit about it. What would people think if you weren’t jumping into people talking about child abuse shitting on their life experience? They might think a religious person could be compassionate and respectful. Good you’re here to put a stop to that bullshit.
Oh of course they’re some kind of Mennonite or Christian extremist. look at her head covering.
Religon is child abuse
They’re doing victory laps with a politician over a dead kid, it doesn’t get much more grotesque or morbid.
All of their children could die of measles and they’d still say: “God works in mysterious ways.”
This reflects my experience growing up with a religion really accurately. What really kills you in the end, is that you took it seriously, when you come out of it you realize no one else was.
I think many people take religion seriously. They wouldn’t spend so much time and money on it if they didn’t. But religion doesn’t change their values. Rather, their values shape what aspects of the religion they care about.
lol no, I’ve been a victim of both and getting hit in the head with a belt buckle was a lot worse than having to sit through an hour of church a week
And both are abuse.
You people are insane
Religious abuse is abuse. This isn’t a fantasy, there’s clear outcomes.
When you and your ilk classify being raised in a religious household as child abuse, your every other argument loses power due to its absurdity
There is no reasonable discussion with such as you
I don’t think all religion is child abuse. Not everyone is your polar opposite extremist.
As insane as all the youth pastors that like little boys?
The incidence of abuse among pastors, while abhorrent, is lower than the general population.
Yes it is a horrible crime that pastors abuse their authority to harm children
Statistically, they are still safer with pastors than their own uncles and aunts.
But everyone on lemmy hates religion.
You know this was a big problem in my day, ‘Stranger danger’.
The VAST majority of abuse cases are by someone the child knows and is related to, but so much time and effort was put in to make the public freak out about a vast army of anonymous pedophiles all plotting to kidnap their children that so many domestic cases were swept under the rug for more salacious public targets (that mostly turned out to be innocent and had their lives ruined anyway by people like you)
But please keep up with the memes because you like to shit on religion so much
That’s a gross oversimplification. You do know most pastors that do that have to get close with the kids in the first place for it to happen… they don’t just see a kid on first day and go for it. They’re predators that try to build trust at first under the guise of religion being safe and trustworthy.
Good thing they just ship them off to another church once they’re found out? I’m sure plenty of cases get swept under the rug because psycho-Christian families believe it was “God’s plan” or some bs.
And I will happily shit on religion all day :) “god” and jesus can choke on my nuts
no, abusers flock to all kinds of power. The common theme is that they are abusers, not that they are religious or political or rich or well connected, abusers will seek ways to be shielded for abuse
if you look at every reasonable metric the BY FAR source of power in child sexual abuse is parental or familial.
You just want to pretend this isn’t the case because it deflates a favorite scapegoat of yours.
It doesn’t matter what language or form is taken to justify the abuse, it is all abhorrent. You take special exception to religion because you are weak minded
I enjoyed church as a kid because it was the one place they COULDN’T just beat the shit out of me for no reason. But still, the indoctrination, lies, manipulation, twisted fucked up world view, and sexual repression are all things ALSO fucking up my adult life. The abuse abuse was a much harder thing to live through and accepting that recovery is a lifetime process not a goal with a possible ending is fucking horrifying, but you know. They both did register as shit I wish I never went through.
Its not religions fault you had shitty parents
It’s a good thing your here to be a piece of shit about it. What would people think if you weren’t jumping into people talking about child abuse shitting on their life experience? They might think a religious person could be compassionate and respectful. Good you’re here to put a stop to that bullshit.