Zoning sounds terrible until your next door neighbor starts running an auto repair shop out of his garage.
“Mixed use” is also a thing. I know of plenty of examples here in the US, I have lived in one of them. New construction consisting of living space above retail is actually kinda trendy right now.
Also if you live above a greasy diner expect cockroaches
That however is just bad zoning. You don’t want to have endless stretches of just living areas, instead you try to have organic town or area centres with mixed quarters. But you need to keep producing business and industry away from living areas.
Over here in Germany for example, auto repair shops are illegal in sole living areas, in normal living areas, they might be allowed under limitations and in mixed areas they are mostly allowed. This is the same for other businesses, but shops for local needs are allowed in every living area - your local grandmas shop
Zoning is a good tool used poorly. Restaurants and grocery stores being subject to zoning creates issues. My personal belief is neither should be subject to zoning (but still have the parking lots be.) Auto shops, manufacturing, and mining operation type things are examples of where zoning is good.
Zoning sounds great until you want to start a small business on your property, and you have to spend years convincing several councils and review boards that a photography business is not going to destroy the neighborhood character… and then you need to pay for a traffic study to prove it won’t negatively impact parking or meaningfully increase car travel on the street. And if it manages to get approved, then some retired busybody with no life will complain at every town council meeting that it’s attracting a bad crowd, and there’s too many people around now.
There is definitely a place for reasonable limits, but almost nowhere in the United States has that. People need to accept that neighborhoods change, and expecting them to be frozen in time is literally insane and fiscally irresponsible.
Why is a next-door auto repair neighbour bad? Do you not have laws on noise?
If you live above a proper restaurant expect no roaches ever, because they can’t afford for literally a single roach to be seen in their restaurant by their customers.
You’ve never seen a cockroach in a restaurant? I’m guessing you live somewhere cold, because in warm places cockroaches are just a part of life. I’ll still avoid anyplace I’ve seen a cockroach, but it’s not like those places get shut down. They just need to up their pest control.
FWIW, I used to take my car to an auto shop located in the middle of a residential neighborhood, next door to an ice cream and bait shop. It did not affect the neighbors in any way that I could see, and didn’t affect the property values.
I haven’t read it yet, but arbitrary lines is a very cool book about the subject, and the exact opposite of what you are saying. The author defends that zoning is the wrong way of going about things and proposes other ways of controlling this issue.
Zoning sounds terrible until your next door neighbor starts running an auto repair shop out of his garage.
“Mixed use” is also a thing. I know of plenty of examples here in the US, I have lived in one of them. New construction consisting of living space above retail is actually kinda trendy right now.
Also if you live above a greasy diner expect cockroaches
On the flip side, you’re stuck in a peaceful quiet suburb that’s a mile or more from any business.
Yes. Exactly.
sincerely,
the car manufacturers of America
That however is just bad zoning. You don’t want to have endless stretches of just living areas, instead you try to have organic town or area centres with mixed quarters. But you need to keep producing business and industry away from living areas.
Over here in Germany for example, auto repair shops are illegal in sole living areas, in normal living areas, they might be allowed under limitations and in mixed areas they are mostly allowed. This is the same for other businesses, but shops for local needs are allowed in every living area - your local grandmas shop
Zoning is a good tool used poorly. Restaurants and grocery stores being subject to zoning creates issues. My personal belief is neither should be subject to zoning (but still have the parking lots be.) Auto shops, manufacturing, and mining operation type things are examples of where zoning is good.
Zoning sounds great until you want to start a small business on your property, and you have to spend years convincing several councils and review boards that a photography business is not going to destroy the neighborhood character… and then you need to pay for a traffic study to prove it won’t negatively impact parking or meaningfully increase car travel on the street. And if it manages to get approved, then some retired busybody with no life will complain at every town council meeting that it’s attracting a bad crowd, and there’s too many people around now.
There is definitely a place for reasonable limits, but almost nowhere in the United States has that. People need to accept that neighborhoods change, and expecting them to be frozen in time is literally insane and fiscally irresponsible.
Why is a next-door auto repair neighbour bad? Do you not have laws on noise?
If you live above a proper restaurant expect no roaches ever, because they can’t afford for literally a single roach to be seen in their restaurant by their customers.
You’ve never seen a cockroach in a restaurant? I’m guessing you live somewhere cold, because in warm places cockroaches are just a part of life. I’ll still avoid anyplace I’ve seen a cockroach, but it’s not like those places get shut down. They just need to up their pest control.
I have never seen a cockroach in a restaurant in my life. But then I live in Europe.
FWIW, I used to take my car to an auto shop located in the middle of a residential neighborhood, next door to an ice cream and bait shop. It did not affect the neighbors in any way that I could see, and didn’t affect the property values.
Exhaust above the roof and full revisions each month. Problem solved.
I haven’t read it yet, but arbitrary lines is a very cool book about the subject, and the exact opposite of what you are saying. The author defends that zoning is the wrong way of going about things and proposes other ways of controlling this issue.
Unless they are a shitty mechanic… i see that as an easy way to get discounts on car repairs…
Somehow works in the rest of the world? Maybe if americans weren’t so disconnected and socially retarded you wouldn’t have these issues.