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    According to DeepSeek, the average price of eggs has increased 258% since 2018.

    So far.

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        Canada here. Hello! Anyone?

        China cut off rare earth minerals and more needed for your war machine. Canada has this in its earth. Along with all the oil, natural gas, coal, water, wood and many other natural resources you will need since you will pretty soon have zero trading partners.

        He needs most rare earth, steel and aluminum to continue his reign of terror and spin up your war manufacturing even more. We have those and some means of production as well.

        We are Poland or Ukraine right now, in various times in history.

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      „Es gibt immer wiederkehrende Zyklen, Höhen und Tiefen, aber der Verlauf der Ereignisse ist im Wesentlichen der gleiche, mit kleinen Abweichungen. Man hat gesagt, dass sich die Geschichte wiederholt. Das ist vielleicht nicht ganz richtig; sie reimt sich lediglich.“

      Theodor Reik

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        “There are recurring cycles, ups and downs, but the course of events is essentially the same, with minor variations. It has been said that history repeats itself. That may not be entirely true; it merely rhymes.” Theodor Reik

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      You see, the — the thing about Star Wars is — is that it’s — it’s like poetry, you know — it rhymes. Every stanza kind of — kind of rhymes with the last one.

      There’s — there’s no underwear in space. That’s — that’s the rule. We didn’t — we didn’t have bras in space. So — so she had to tape them down. It’s just — you know — it’s a space thing.

      Well — you know — the music, uh — it’s not like rock music, or — or electronic stuff. It’s — it’s very classical. Very old-fashioned. Because — because it’s set in space, but — but it’s not futuristic. It’s — it’s more like a — like a space opera. That’s what it is — a space opera It’s — it’s why the music is what we — well I call it jizz.

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    Hypothetically, if this comic book copy of the Nazis would be just an act, what could be the benefit?

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    I would say this is the WORST (not really) attempt to try to connect the current American state to Nazi Germany. There are much much better comparisons when considering class conflict. I guess I’m the “idiot” and this is likely good propaganda for the “normies” in our current state. So maybe I’m out of touch in that regard. But the connections are far more important than the price of eggs.

    I don’t really wanna give more here because I’m tired but for anyone that cares: Just read and you’ll get some perspective

    I guess I like the simple levels of comparison but I think anyone that actually would be convinced by it needs more perspective.

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      Obvious/surface level/aesthetic comparisons change hearts & minds. Nobody’s reading 160 pages of book unless they agree (broadly) with you already. Headlines & theory serve different functions.

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      he has mentioned the nazis many time, and wished he had people like them on his administration.

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        You mean the people that started the second world war with some of the most advanced military hardware and brilliant tactical commanders of their day and still managed to blow it?

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      He has only been sighted reading one book:

      Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

      “Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

      Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

      “I don’t remember,” I said.

      “Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

      Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

      Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler’s speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler’s genius at propaganda

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    The playbook is there, is being followed, you people have the 2nd amendment and I have no idea why these people walk freely while you struggle to pay rent and pay your meals

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      When the 2nd Amendment was written, a bunch of (trained) dudes with muskets represented the pinnacle of military power (at least if there wasn’t any artillery around, even back then). So the 2nd Amendment gave the people the right to possess sufficient military power to counter the federal government. Today, having a closet full of peashooters means absolutely fucking nothing to a government with armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, airplanes, cruise missiles, drones, intercontinental missiles and nukes at their disposal. The idea that the 2nd Amendment represents an antidote to a tyrannical federal government is just as much of a fantasy for the Left as it always has been for the Right.

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        civilian resistance has been notoriously hard for modern militaries to deal with.

        hardened targets like tanks have become increasingly vulnerable.

        drones are still scary, but anybody can use drones.

        if you believe you’re already defeated, then you probably are. i have no respect for cowards and pacifists.

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          I’ve been relentlessly posting this stuff early and asking why no one is mounting a resistance. Telling people to buy guns and go to immigrant neighborhoods and protect people they don’t know.

          I’m getting hammered with responses and PM’s. It’s crazy the way they think and act in this moment. It’s very telling about their society and what will happen when they allow the wars to come to us.

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        Sure. The US military can just start murdering everyone in the country with their superior firepower. Then the economy is gone and so are the relatives and friends of the soldiers.

        Look at Israel failing to militarily defeat Hamas. And that is not only with the firepower difference but also with decades of supremacist indoctrination and a near total disregard for the human life of the people they designate as enemies.

        Look at how the Ukrainians took over their country in 2014, throwing stones and pushing garbage cans as shields against the army and police shooting at them.

        If the people in the US were dedicated to oppose a fascist takeover, they would win. Yes people will die in the process, but the idea that the army would just massacre everyone without hesitation from a human perspective is far fetched, just as the idea of the government and their cronies happily affording to loose large parts of the population is far fetched.

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        I wouldn’t say it’s nothing. It’s a lot less meaningful that it used to be but it can still be effective. Whoever killed that CEO last year only needed a basic gun and they managed to make America slightly better with it.

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        I wouldn’t say “no chance”. Last summer Trump was a few inches from being a chunkful of splattered History.

        Of course the idea that the population could take the US military full-on is ridiculous. But resistance doesn’t have to take the shape of traditional warfare, and anything would be better than the current overwhelming apathy that is the response to being governed by literal Nazis.

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          The regime can use drones but not the population. That’s would be wrong.

          Years of war history with your children being blown up in foreign countries by the poor people you invaded and you still have no idea what an IED is.

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        No one’s talking about fighting the military. You just form an armed mob like the black panthers did and scare politicians into submission lol. 330 million guns and people in this country no one needs to fire a shot at anyone.

        Like Reagan made gun control laws real quick. We should learn from our own recent history

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        Lots of times this is brought up so I question you this. Why has no one organized cyber warfare against your regime?

        Why are we in the outside world not yet supporting American revolutionists via the internet? Everyone seems to have connection. Loads have experience in IT in some way. Just Lemmy alone is full of Americans who fear bullets but own computers.

        No bullets inside computers.

        I’ll probably get reported for inciting violence.

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            A land of armed dissidents who can’t be bothered. They won’t walk so lightly into Canada as heir drumpfkins continually threatens and they did and continue to do with your formerly democratic institutions. I can assure you of that.

            Never even learned from the poor people you invaded and killed for the past century or more who fought back with much, much less than you have easily available. You’ll praise the man in Tiananmen Square from behind the internet box, who stood up to a line of tanks with, what was it again? Oh yea, a couple of bags of groceries.

            But you won’t do shit for yourself and actively argue against any suggestion as being farcical.

            All talk no action. Shouldn’t be a hard defeat when the war comes. Sorry but we’ll be considering people like you, responsible.

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          Why has no one organized cyber warfare against your regime?

          I mean … the US government (the NSA specifically) can basically read anybody’s electronic communications and let themselves into any networked device younger than 25 years old. If there were to be any kind of successful resistance to this administration, it couldn’t be “cyber” in any way.

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            Right so more excuses. You should deal with your dictator problem. It’s affecting the world. Scared of bullets, won’t even try from the couch. Your society is fucked.

            If it’s such an issue, travel outside the country as a citizen, you can do that…right now at least. The internet exists in all sorts of different places in the world as do partisans against American authoritarian rule.

            Perhaps you were unaware.

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              my God man pull it together. You fucking sound like you’re losing it. Why don’t you focus on your own problems at home. Cyber war against who, partisans fight who? Like do you have a strategy in mind or are you just full of panic and trying to insight violence.

              Like seriously what country are you from so I can better understand what you’re implying we do

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                I am Canadian. You continue to not act and I am just as fucked as you. We will mount a resistance though. Many are already economically and many individuals are openly preparing for war. Taking classes, buying guns, training for first aid, joining mutual aid orgs, saving money to fly their kids out of country if they can, when it becomes necessary. I am doing my part at home thank you.

                Funny that we can see what’s necessary as can the rest of the world but you are blind to it and fight against recognising it for what it is.

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                  As a Canadian the developments that are happening right now make me highly opposed to the gun bans that have been happening. Almost all semi-automatic rifles are banned and it isn’t doing a dent to the crime. Licensed Canadian gun owners were never a problem. Canada never had a gun problem even when there was next to no gun control here.

                  We need community defense and a ready made resistance force, like the home guard in Britain during ww2.

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                  Okay, so I’m already ahead of you on that entire list. What next? Help others do the same? Okay doing that too? Any other suggestions Canada? Like we hear you bro. We’re down here. It’s disorienting and you don’t know whos on who’s side. 70% of the public doesn’t even sense anythings wrong. Please we need guidance you let us know what to do next?

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              What could you be possibly so worried about from the downfall of America? state exactly what kinda cyber war activities you think we should be doing? You just want us to go march on Washington DC with guns and start shooting at people and indiscriminately? I’m just confused why you’re so scared you’re over here trying to get us to do something about it and I’m wondering what you think we could possibly be doing right now. Like if we’re not interested in doing something for ourselves what would make you think that we would care what the fuck you think? or what consequences you face?

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                I face the eminent invasion and occupation of my country for its natural resources to continue the 'murican war machine against the world. Cause China cut you off for your war machine production due to your baby tyrants tarrifs. Yet the only real economy you possess any longer domestically is based on war production. Your dictator has repeatedly threatened the sovereignty of our nation and annexation. He has instigated a trade war and economic warfare on his closest ally and one of your largest trading partners. His takeover does not stop at some imaginary line on a map. It’s not just your country in peril from the dictator you have enshrined in the courts to have the ultimate authority and then voted in as your president. You probably didn’t notice though because you’re busy being American and not giving a shit about anyone else.

                You do nothing and I get fucked too as do my countrymen. Your American exceptionaliam is rank. Fuck everyone else as long as I get mine.

                Canada is Poland 1937-38 or Ukraine pre 2014 right now. The world knows. Perhaps you should recognise it as well since it’s happening because of you.

                But I have no right to speak out. I have no right to be worried. I have no right to continually and unashamedly tell you that you are a population of fools until such time you act otherwise. Kindly go fuck yourself.

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                  The whole US canada border has close historical side, the US part has a lot of guns and hunters. We will be coming in large numbers to help you if you need it. Until then help yourself, improve ties with europe, secure your food supplies and trade routes, get ready for a great depression. So much fear projecting out there. Be brave, be purposeful. Don’t put words in my mouth or maybe i’ll have a change of heart before the invasion and decide to share in your cowardice when it is time for actions.

                  We’ve got way bigger problems then you so unless you’ve got some useful advice no ones considered just chill. also if your paying attention, war efforts are shifting to the southern border and on china. No ones talked about canada in 30 days. The admins attention span is 30 minutes, the 51st state is in the past now hopefully. We’ve got new terrors to unleash on ourselves and the world.

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                  Well fortunately for you, I’m a Mainer and will absolutely be fighting alongside of you on the Canadian border if that ever happens so be fucking nice cause we don’t really know what else to do besides prepare and hope the shit doesn’t hit the fan. I’m doing my best on the angry mob front but people are not angry. There is not much we can do as one person, or even a million people. We are fragmented geographically and ideologically in our own communities. Communication and information is damn near impossible. I know whats happening bro, we don’t know what to do. As mentioned we have guns and ammo. I don’t know which one of my neighbors I can trust. The whole Nazi germany thing happened a while ago. There are very important nuances to resistance to consider and the rules are being re-written.

                  Anywhoo lets hope we don’t have to meet up in New Brunswick, but I will be there to answer the call. There will be plenty of Mainers heading up to help you guys. The current administration can’t even pull off an attack on Yemen without broadcasting it to the world, I think we’ll have some warnings before we invade canada. Not even sure if they can pull it off.

                  My money is still on a global depression, so maybe secure your food supplies and stop worrying about shit you can’t change. These guys arn’t competent enough to weild the military to attack an ally neighbor. They are white supremists and canada is full of good english-y whites. The admin hasn’t even looked your way in a month, keep your head down and just hope America implodes, go align with europe I have faith it will work out for you guys. You’re not the one getting skull fucked by brainworms on a national scale lmao

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        Don’t forget drones.

        Also don’t forget the times the superior weaponry of the government was used against our own citizens. Things such as fire bombing our own city blocks or using turrets against protestors.

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          Are you guys really that scared of the military being used on you in the country? I’m ashamed of all of you. You sound like total cowards. It’s an irrational fear and it’s just a beacon of cowardice. nobody’s gonna drone strike your stupid little suburb.

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              I’ve been here for 40 fucking years. I can walk right up to my 80 year old senators house and say hey bitch time to step down. There’s no army there. It’s okay to be afraid, it’s not okay to fearmonger up your delusions. Just stay home and quit crying. Go back to playing video games. I’m just looking for a hundred thousand people to help pressure congress people to step down by making them unwelcome in their home towns.

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              Well I guess we should all just hide, and project fear online until they come for us individually! Great idea coward. I’ll get right on that.

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        There comes a point where that life isn’t preferable anymore, but then it’s too late.

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          Thing is. It is their first time. Most of Europe knows how this ends because generations that lived under a dictator are still alive today. Children of those generations are alive today and have first hand accounts of how it was.

          Murrica has none of that.

          And if any tankie is reading it. I am talking about soviets. Not nazis.

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          Agreed, but the Bread and Circus of centuries and millenia past have become extremely good. There wasn’t even a term for air conditioning, either.

          To get serious, citizens have to give up a lot of creature comforts. I don’t see them doing that.

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    It shouldn’t but it does still baffle me how Trump is so consistently pulling from the Hitler playbook while still having as many people that do deny it

    clarifying

    I understand that there’s a subset that support him because of that (even while denying it) but I still think (hope) that the majority of them truly don’t like what Hitler did

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      I think the majority of supporters “don’t like what Hitler did” in that they understand that liking Hitler is socially intolerable, and not much else. They either literally can’t make the connections because they’re dumber than dogshit, or they’re deliberately misrepresenting themselves to avoid criticism and shame.

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        In my opinion it’s that they don’t believe the people Hitler persecuted were the right people and that’s why he was wrong. They were the kind of people who bought into the fascist and nazi propaganda from back then except now they’re buying into it about a loosely defined “immigrant criminal” and LGBTQ+ people in general.

        I also think they’e mostly against the idea of concentration camps now but are slowly being groomed to support them. Given enough time they’ll fully believe death camps are necessary for the USA to be “great again”

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        I don’t love “dumber than dogshit” to describe a group of people, even Trump supporters. It places blame and denigrates those people while giving a pass to the environment they grew up in that gave them indoctrination instead of real education.

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          I wrestled with this myself, but no longer. Some of them, a lot of them, are really that dumb. Yes, some were indocrinated and have environmental factors, but they may have inherited the brain cell count as well.

          At this point, what will wake them up? They’re fine with the racism and evilness, what will make them take a look at themselves to make them wonder if the person they worship is a conman?

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            Economic ruin seems to help change minds.

            But the world-view/sunk cost fallacy is a hard thing to counter.

          • Was reading the asmondgold reddit and felt a strong desire to make a reddit account to destroy every broken ass argument these people barf out. Its not worth it and would probably get banned making it all wasted effort. Fact remains these people use such lazy logic and can’t even be bothered to be consistent. It’s not like they’re beating the fascist drum but they are honestly indifferent to it.

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          I am tired of acting like “placing blame” is the worst thing you can do upon someone, and that it needs to be highly deliberate and laser-guided like those switchblade “bombs” they drop on people. We’ve all become so sensitive to criticism that we avoid it like slugs avoid salt.

          Fuck them. It is their fucking fault. And they’ll be lucky if being blamed is the worst thing that happens to them.

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            I don’t think I was totally clear. It’s not that I think they have no fault in the matter, but I don’t think they’re the root of the problem. Nor do I think that being mad at them does anything to address our current situation. My point is, direct the blame at those most responsible. The oligarchs and the right wing politicians have earned at least 99% of the blame for where we’re at. I don’t see any point in attacking the victims of propaganda, even if you think you wouldn’t have fallen for it.

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          My theory is cowardice. Born from constantly being pummelled with fear mongering and propaganda, mind you. But cowardice nonetheless.

          Would directly explain the desperation for a “strong” leader no matter the cost. As well as pave the road to deeper bigotry, misogyny, and plain old fashioned racism; there must be a pretty deep cognitive dissonance to internalize all that fear, but still attempt to maintain that they care about “doing the right thing”. Anyway, that psychological torment has to be someone’s fault.

          Worst though, is to witness all the evil and suffering coming from this faction and their leaders, but to at the same time know that if I cannot find some level of honest compassion for these individuals, then I have no chance of getting through to them (with some of them, that might not even be possible anymore). Forgive the sinner, not the sin, sure makes it sound simple. Hint: it’s not. It’s, well, fucked up and awful, to say the least.

          But our options are running out, and without solidarity there will be no viable path forward. The only path left will go in the wrong direction for a terrible distance, involving untold violence and death before there will be any chance to start moving forward again. Even the best of our options sadly will almost certainly involve widespread suffering and loss of life.

          I will do everything I can to hold onto hope. But I will not deny that we all need to do whatever we can to ready ourselves for the worst, and that I cannot let my hope blind me to the truth.

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            It feels like the time for doing is already passed in terms of being able to “win.” …And probably by decades. Honesty human beings would be slaughtered.

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          Even if you get a substandard, indoctrination based education, you have to be dumber than dogshit to never question it.

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      Lack of education. My class spent all of 1 class on WW2. I know because I spent time learning on my own.

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        Which is quite literally by design. Our education system is so shit because it was literally designed to produce obedient workers. Once the oligarchs who created the system were gone, the new ones did not want to replace it since it benefited them. Thus why we have so many braindead idiots who believe everything they are told. Since that they were taught to believe that what they were told in school was always the truth. This is why colleges and universities have to spend time deprogramming students to have them be able to think critically and for themselves. That is also why people with degrees usually vote against conservative policies, because they are able to think for themselves properly. They see the world for what it is and want unjust systems to be replaced with just ones.

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          It’s a problem of education as well as isolation (purposeful or not). You can’t know what you haven’t been exposed to, nor can you easily argue against something that you’re surrounded by (especially as a kid). That being said, there is absolutely no excuse for the older crowd to be like this, as they have heard something about the experiences of parents or grandparents who first hand knew what the fight was about. The Greatest Generation, and certainly many before them, would be shocked at what’s been forgotten about authoritarianism, dictators, and nationalism.

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            I’d argue the modern isolation is absolutely purposeful. Social media can be both a great tool to connect with people and one to isolate them. And with social media algorithms largely biasing towards hateful content since that keeps engagement high. Once a person is isolated they can be feed more hateful content without them even realizing how they are spiraling.

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              I agree, possibly starting with the Southern Strategy for our situation now, but even before that since influencing people to think certain ways isn’t anything new.

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                Oh we have been trying to influence people to act or vote or do something a certain way for literally thousands of years. Roman society broke down because of how divided things became at certain points.

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        My high school classes spent a lot more time than that on WWII, but most definitely did not cover Hitler’s tariff policy.

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          I believe that, but it’s important to remember that there’s very little consistency in schooling. There’s a wide range of quality in public schools even within my state. Before you even mention private schools with their own agendas

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        At a job I worked with like 15 other people. Only 2 people knew what the holocaust was. I was one of the two. Even older people didn’t know.

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                They were, but they were called periods. Saying ‘class’ would mean you have that all semester. Like taking algebra. I’d be surprised if there was a WW2 class that you took all semster. We had a US history class and had a big section on WW2.

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                  Apparently you’ve never been late to class, but late to period. Honestly I don’t think the problem is on my end.

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      What’s baffling to me, is how many Americans don’t seem to realize how closely he is actually following Germany in the 1930s.

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      There’s that subgroup of Holocaust deniers (or skeptics). I’m not sure how many Trump supporters are Holocaust deniers, but most Holocaust deniers are probably Trump leaning.

      I’m sure there are some who think Hitler did nothing wrong.

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      Maybe we should train AI on that book to predict what he will do next and what to do to prevent it?

      Anyone with AI maybe should try to use big company resources to help weaponize AI against Nazis.

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        The whole plan is written out step by step… project 2025… it’s a long read, but there isn’t any need to look anywhere else, they literally released the plan they are following.

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    Fascists are nothing if not predictable. Tariffs arise naturally from far-right ultranationalism. There’s a few reasons for this.

    One is that it plays directly into notions of national/racial exceptionalism. “Our country/race is better than all the rest. Other nations/races should have to pay exorbitant fees just to do business with us.”

    Second is that it severs ties with international mechanisms of diplomacy and peacekeeping. It serves as a convenient way to detach a state from its allies (who stand in the way of its conquests). This is typified by events like the Japanese Empire’s withdrawal from the League of Nations, in that case not over tariffs but a war of conquest, but tariffs can provide similar opportunities to break apart treaties and start preparing a populace for the conditions of all out war.

    Thirdly is that it stops trade with other nations. This forces manufacturing facilities to be bolstered in the nation, isolationism. This means that once all-out war is declared, the nation has the full-scale production facilities to create machines of war at the pace required to sustain large-scale conflicts. This creates the precarious situation of having more production than you do resources (because you can’t trade for them anymore), but this problem is solved by conquering territories rich in natural resources.

    And fourth, it serves as a direct prelude to declaring all out war. Trade wars are nearly always present prior to full-scale conflicts in modern history. Both Nazi Germany and the fascist Empire of Japan were widely sanctioned internationally in the years leading up to the Western, Eastern, and Pacific fronts of World War 2. These trade wars actually served fascist interests in so far as they made the lives of their citizens already feel constrained and pressured. An escalation to all-out conflict wasn’t that great a change when already all their sons were being drafted and common household goods were becoming scarce and rationed.

    Trump is not original. We’ve seen these events play out before under a variety of different circumstances. The move of economically isolating the United States from the rest of the world perfectly serves the fascist conquering aspirations of his Christian white nationalist voting base. They’ll grumble about cost of goods, but they lap up his ultranationalist “making the world pay us” rhetoric like they’re dying of thirst.

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      Yup. There’s a significant cost to having a war with a country you do a lot of trade with. You don’t want to pay that cost while having a war at the same time. That could lead to economic collapse. It could even result in your military lacking the resources need to execute the war.

      But if you sever trade beforehand, pay the costs of that first, then once your economy has stabilized you can invade other countries without risking economic collapse.

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      One is that it plays directly into notions of national/racial exceptionalism. “Our country/race is better than all the rest. Other nations/races should have to pay exorbitant fees just to do business with us.”

      Except that’s not how tariffs work.

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        Note that all Big Lies serve the dual purpose of crushing dissent, because prople thwt disagree with the leader will expose themselves by saying stuff like this.

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        Of course not. But that narrative is easily applied to tariffs. In political ideologies like fascism which promote centralized authorities not only on morality but on reality itself, what is real is far less important than what the narrative is.

        They already doubt all information provided by any source other than their fascist authorities. What any other source has to say on the matter is irrelevant to them. “The entire world is a gigantic global conspiracy against fascism. All non-fascist media lies incessantly to discredit fascism.” Any non fascist academic institutions, non fascist news sources, non fascist people, and non fascist organizations will by default be assumed to be lying. The very notion that any information provided to them by anything outside of the fascist sphere of influence could be true is impossible to them. They are not scientists, nor are they economists, nor are they academics. Ask them what tariffs do, and they’ll say, “Make everyone else pay America our fair share.” That’s what the fascist authority has told them. They believe it unquestionably.

        Are there non-ardent fascists who support fascism but oppose the tariffs, like investment firms and individual educated citizens? Sure. But we’re talking about fascism as it inflicts its ideology as a world view. Those who truly believe Donald Trump to be a good person, a messianic like figure sent from heaven. Those who voted for him not for any benefit they indirectly believed he’d give them (like tax cuts for the wealthy), but purely because they are true hearted fascists. They believe in white supremacy and in Christian nationalism. They want to make America a white christian ethnostate. Whether they state it openly or not, whether they believe that’s what their motivations are or not. Racism, christian nationalism, misogyny, and xenophobia these are the only material things he has to offer these people.

        So when he says that tariffs do x y and z, he could be saying anything, and they will most likely believe it. If the economy tanks, it couldn’t be because of him. He will blame someone like Biden and the deep state (jewish people), and they’ll believe him.

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      It is tragic how society fails to realize how good they have it and start voting Right. Then the Right takes hold, treats them like shit, but tells them it’s all in the name of a bright future for them.

      They see someone taking drastic action to make their lives better. That they believe him is likely due largely in part to how stupid he is (not how stupid they are).

      Boring old guy trying to make progress at a snails pace is not satisfying when there’s a rich (powerful) guy seemingly trying to fight for the little people and willing to do batshit crazy things to do it.

      What we need are some Leftist fascists, I guess? They need to be rich, benevolent, kind of stupid, and batshit crazy about doing what is necessary to get everyone healthcare and a living income.

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    But Hitler made no effort to reassure the markets, insisting that the tariffs were necessary and that he needed time to fix the ruined country his predecessors had left him… Hitler provided scant details as to how this was to be accomplished. By this point, he had broken even with the tariff cheerleader Feder, and had abandoned most of the action items for developing a nationalist and socialist economy. These items had included increased taxation of the wealthy; state supervision of large corporations; and the prohibition of “new department stores, low-priced shops, and chain stores.”

    Man, this stuff sounds very familiar.

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      Somehow he keeps forgetting about the taxation of the wealthy. I’m baffled as to why

      /S

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      Trumps whole political career has been right out of hitlers playbook. Unfortunately it has never been enough evidence for anyone to care. Even more unfortunately I think it resonates with a lot of people.

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      It’s just a really quick way to start extracting money from the people you’ve subjugated. They will complain, and suck it up.

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      Where? Because compared to this, what Trump is doing is amateurish and half-assed.
      Trump is going half way on half the things, on taxing the rich Trump is doing the opposite, and he is wavering on the other things because he doesn’t know what he is doing.
      But maybe it’s enough, because apparently the MAGA crowd still supports him!

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        Well, yeah - the article was saying “These items had included increased taxation of the wealthy.” They mean things that Hitler’s team planned to do but Hitler backed out of and didn’t do, going full tilt on tariffs.