DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.

Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.

Unrelated……

The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.

What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.

This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.

And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

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    The comment that started this accusation said:

    Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…

    which prompted the response:

    Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …

    and a furth explanation:

    There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

    to which i said:

    you’re making that up.

    and the rest of the thread has been bickering about whether, in fact, they made that up. the accusation is that, since the election, the people opposed to genocide who wanted to exert electoral pressure, who were also people who were pretending only democrats could have responsibility AND that trump could not be worse, have since disappeared. i know that’s a lot of commas. lets make this a bit clearer:

    the accusation is that

    there are people who

    • (a)oppose genocide
    • (b)wanted to exert electoral pressure on the democrats
    • ©were pretending only democrats could have responsibility
    • (d)believed that trump could not be worse

    and that those people

    • (e)disappeared after the election.

    what you provided was evidence that, in fact, those people don’t exist, and to the extent that people who met criteria a-c may have existed (it’s still not clear they held this belief prior to the election), they did not, also fulfill criteria (e).

    so despite your aptitude for verbosity and markdown syntax, your comment is, also, not evidence.

    edit: i made a few syntactic edits to this, but as i’m now reading it for the 12th time or so, i don’t actually think we have evidence of anyone fulfilling criteria c in addition to a and b.

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      The comment that started this accusation said:

      That’s nice. I was responding to a very particular exchange, different from the one you picked out to look at, which said:

      There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

      you’re making that up.

      Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse. Some of them are still around, (and still! saying the same thing for some fucked-up reason, as per my examples) some are gone. I gave some examples of that crowd.

      I don’t really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around and introduce totally random qualifications like “in order to exert electoral pressure on the Democrats” when in fact the lack of that is a big part of why I object strongly to the whole operation. Where, something like the “uncommitted” movement is at least organized in a fashion where it seems like it could produce an improvement, by putting pressure on the Democrats, so that sounds fine. Just not voting for Democrats and hoping they’ll figure it out and move to the left seems pretty much guaranteed to give us something along the lines of the catastrophe that happened. Which is why I am opposed to it.

      Anyway feel free to tell the people in Gaza or immigrants in the US or any international student or Ukrainian or and so on about your theory and how pleased you are, now that it’s succeeded, and aren’t they proud of you.

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        I don’t really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around

        this accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith

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        your theory and how pleased you are, now that it’s succeeded

        you’re putting word in my mouth.

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          I never said you had said you were pleased about it. I said you should be pleased about it, now that it’s had the absolutely 100% predictable result, and you should be proud to tell all the people scared or suffering because of it how this was an impact of your master plan to improve the Democrats, and how well it’s working, and how important it was for you so you could accomplish your goals.

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            it’s also met my theory, or anyone else’s. it’s a charicature made up by democrat party apologists. it’s a strawman.

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              What was your theory for how refusing to support the Democrats was going to produce an improvement in the world, then? Tell me.

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                I can’t speak for others. I was hoping their candidate would back off of supporting Israel and their sitting president would follow suit. it didn’t happen so I don’t know why you’d think I or anyone else would be pleased, or think it worked, or that that Democrats aren’t responsible for their own failures

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                  I was hoping their candidate would back off of supporting Israel and their sitting president would follow suit.

                  Super realistic. Absolute master stroke. And look how well it worked. I apologize for ever have criticized you or your strategy.

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        Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse.

        yes they are, and if that weren’t the case you would have been able to show it