• TheFudd@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    The problem isnt commie guy, it’s all the other brainless sheep who keep voting for the same two parties who don’t represent them is definitely commie guy for not understanding that a boring and flawed neoliberal Democrat is preferable to a fascist dictatorship.

    Fixed that for you.

    Consider this: if all the people forced to vote opted to vote someone else, then the Dems would really understand why they’re failing, and more, you’d have the basis for an actual third party to from.

    Wrong answer. That made sense under Clinton vs Bush or Obama vs Romney, not nowadays. We can “consider” your proposal when there’s not a damn fascist dictator threatening to send US citizens to an El Salvadorian gulag for disagreeing with the President.

    Then again, commies tend to love gulag’ing people who disagree with them, just ask Stalin… So maybe commie guy sees the gulags as a good thing?

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      Yeah if you think Bush was an acceptable choice and not a fascist then you don’t really have a leg to stand on with this “commies love gulags” nonsense. You think this El Salvador shit is new? Those of us who were paying attention know that Bush did the same shit, while they did their fair share of torturing alleged “terrorists” with no due process in our own black sites, the worst abuses were conducted in foreign countries like Egypt, when we sent prisoners there knowing full well how they’d be treated. Some of us have been fighting this battle for over 20 years, nice of you to finally wake up and notice now that someone you hate is doing it, but it would be nice if you’d notice when the people you like are doing it too.

      It’s so stupid when liberals, defending a system with the largest prison population per capita in the world, with indefinite detention without trial, mass surveillance, etc, still try to take the moral high ground on that issue just because the word “gulag” sounds scary and foreign.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      3 hours ago

      Fascism isn’t a choice, or a policy, it’s Capitalism using brutal methods to defend itself, like when the Democrats sent Israel mountains of bombs to obliterate Palestinians. Fascism is not a distinct economic system, but the same underlying system as Capitalism, only when it’s in crisis and needs to defend itself while pretending it’s qualitatively different.

      The Liberal answer to the political problems we see is to perpetuate it indefinately and purely act within the system that selects for whatever brutal methods it needs to sustain itself. This isn’t an answer, it’s approval.

      As for gulags, I recommend reading Russian Justice. It’s a good thing to jail fascists, Tsarists, and others who would violently try to overthrow a popular government. Or, are you saying you wouldn’t jail Trump if given the opportunity?

    • ubergeek@lemmy.today
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      4 hours ago

      Every single one of those elections, the Dems chanting “us or fascism!!”

      It’s kinda like the gun safety debate: we can not discuss it within 72 hrs of a mass shooting.

      After 72 hrs, nobody wants to talk about it, or we have another one.

      When will the Dems actually oppose fascism, instead of saying they want to?

      Additionally, who is that “boring liberal republic” better for? Certainly not Palestinians. Certainly not for union workers on our rail lines. Not for people becoming houseless. Not for queer people. Not for indigenous peeps, either…

      So, just for white, straight people, so we need to keep supporting it?

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      4 hours ago

      a boring and flawed neoliberal Democrat is preferable to a fascist dictatorship.

      Another reminder that blueMAGA don’t see Palestinians as human.

      threatening to send US citizens to an El Salvadorian gulag for disagreeing with the President.

      Yeah, just non-citizens, as is right and proper.

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        3 hours ago

        Another reminder that blueMAGA don’t see Palestinians as human.

        Every option with any real chance of being elected supported Israel. Unfortunately your choices are essentially Dem, GOP, or one of several people who is definitely going to lose unless you can round up another 60 million or so voters to back them.

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          Let me say again, the FPTP voting system leads to two dominant parties, but nowhere in mathematics or law does it say the those two have to be Democrats and Republicans. We’ve always had the choice of a different two parties. That the Blue and Red duopoly would lead to fascism via the ratchet effect been clear for nearly 30 years.

          I wouldn’t claim that Democrats don’t see the people of Palestine as human, exactly. They may just put it out of mind. Denial is a very potent force.

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          3 hours ago

          Ok. Still doesn’t change the fact that describing the Democrats as “boring and flawed neoliberals” despite their full throated support for genocide in support of a fascist ethnostate is only possible if you don’t consider Palestinians human.