This is going to be much closer than polls and 338 suggest, and I base that on the historically high turnout.
338 tunes polls to match elections. When you go from low turnout to historically high, that necessarily means people and demographics that previously did not vote are. That implies higher error than expected in the models, and a higher chance of an unanticipated result.
Don’t rely on the polls to feel safe in the outcome, don’t rely on 338, get your butt out there and vote!
(Side note, I am a Liberal voter, but this is my ABC advice)
These outlier polls give me the heebijeebies. Some friends are very calm looking at the “nicer” polls. I can’t shake the feeling that they’re missing some undercurrent.
The poor and working classes are really voting against their interests…
If you’re referring to the NDP losing votes and the conservatives gaining them, I’m guessing that’s not very common. What would make more sense is for Liberals to move to Conservatives as NDP move to Liberals.
Why won’t the poor people realize what’s good for them and vote for the globalist banker?
As is tradition.
I wore an onion on my belt. Which was the style at the time.
This is all polls, given that ballots won’t be counted until after 7pm April 28. If you didn’t vote this weekend at advance, get out and vote on the 28th. Take your Voter Information card and driver’s licence if you have them.
The demographic breakdown is disturbing, especially gender.
Also age. How the hell are young people leaning conservative?
Welcome to the new reality we’re all dealing with south of your border too.
Have you loaded YouTube without logging in or cookies lately? Holly fuck is it bad. Just misogynist clickbait slop. All of it.
It is insane how rapid the descent in the alt right pipelines is. The youth come in a world that is truly in bad shape, bad economy, no housing, climate crisis and nihilism. Makes it ripe for someone to feed easy answers to all the problems they’re experiencing.
They’re getting dragged in from gamers, car guys, gun guys, and probably lots of other video makers that aren’t explicitly right wing, but then the algorithms take over and full maga bro isn’t far beyond.
We as a society completely ignored teen boys and especially what they were looking at online for over a decade and then we locked them all inside for a couple years during their most formative years while only giving them access to the Internet.
Firstly - They probably grew up or came into voting age under a Trudeau government. They don’t know what it’s like to live under an awful Conservative government. They also blame the federal government for things outside of its control.
Secondly - Younger people are superglued to social media which is a completely unchecked and unregulated IV-shot of manipulation and disinformation.
Thirdly - Political education is extremely poor. People simply do not understand how government works at any level and they don’t care to know. BC’s last provincial election saw a sizeable amount of people vote for the BCCons party because they wanted to get rid of Trudeau… in a provincial election. People blame governments for things they cannot control and demand governments to fix things that they cannot.
Fourthly - Right wing groups are intentionally targeting disenfranchised youth, particularly young men. To say we are going to deal with a new generation of ultra-toxic masculinity is an understatement, but that mentality usually leans right.
Excellent points.
It’s depressing that media literacy is so low and the cons are taking advantage of it. If this doesn’t turn around then the future is not so bright.
There are the pocket book issues: food is expensive, housing is wildly expensive, jobs are hard to come by, and healthcare is basically ERs at this point.
There’s a reason people are angry at the incumbents. The right are the ones capitalizing on it.
food is expensive,
Out of gov control.
housing is wildly expensive,
Out of gov control
jobs are hard to come by,
Not sure what milhouse told kids to blame the gov for on this one.
and healthcare is basically ERs at this point
hillbillies incentivized docs to just quit, and we’re stuck rebuilding.
Are we just scapegoating the gov now?
Are we just scapegoating the gov now?
As always, but only when the other side is in power.
People have a bunch of legit complaints about their quality of life, that the right is capitalizing on. If we don’t address those, progressive parties will do poorly.
Feels like what Brexit was like when I was living in London, UK.
Because of misogynistic, male “influencers”, who are also extreme right-winged nuts: Peterson, Tate, Shapiro, etc…
there are adults, mostly men, who have been grooming them for years.
Andrew Tate targets 14 year old boys
I saw a post on Reddit about a person in their early thirties who had done everything “right” but was being evicted so their landlord could raise the rent. They couldn’t find a place in their community that they could afford.
This is the world that kids are entering: it’s hard to find a decent job; and unless you have family money, you’ll spend most of your income on rent.
It’s totally understandable they want to kick the incumbents out. And it’s fucking depressing that there’s no progressive politician in Canada presenting a viable alternative.
so they elect billionaires who want to break their backs with student loans (at least in the US.)
do they really think the fascists will fix the economy for them? or do they just want to take their anger out on minorities so they feel powerful?
I can’t speak to the US, this is a Canadian community.
Edit: That might have come across as impolite. Here’s a summary of the Canadian state of affairs.
In Canada, the leader of the incumbent centre-right party (the LPC) made a series of insensitive and alienating statements that minimized our cost of living crisis between 2023 and 2024. The LPC put a number of policies into place starting in around 2018 that are generally credited with exacerbating the crisis. The right-wing party (the CPC) was able to capitalize on the widespread dissatisfaction with the LPC and looked ready to win government in the 2025 elections.
That changed when the leader of the LPC stepped down and a life-time bureaucrat was elected as the head of the LPC. At this point, support for the LPC and CPC is close, but the LPC has a slight advantage in most polls.
The vote tally for the 2025 election will occur on April 28.
At this point, I don’t believe there are any billionaires running in the election. Generally speaking, the wealthy class (such as the Irvings, Rogers family, etc) typically support proxies who will advance their interests. It’s rare that they appear in public with politicians. Having said that, the leaders of both the LPC and CPC are life-long government employees that have enjoyed impressive salaries, and are both much wealthier than the general population.
The current leaders of the LPC and CPC are on record as being very wealth-friendly. It is unlikely that either of them would make any changes that would address the root causes of our cost of living crisis - that would require significant changes to how real estate and businesses are taxed, etc. It’s fair to say that the LPC would probably offer more bandaid solutions, so that is fairly positive.
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Just voted with 3 others, all conservative, here’s hoping we regain the lead!
Why do you hate Trans people and immigrants so much?
There are far more important things our government should focus on. Global warming, housing crisis, increase in crime.
You call it hate, I call it change.
The other person’s comment addresses this much better than I will but you won’t respond to them lmao
Respectfully, I’m under the impression that the Conservative party has the least impactful policy for addressing climate change, particularly for carbon emissions.
I’m also not a fan of their housing plan - I’m concerned that removing federal tax on all home purchases will benefit corporations that purchase single family homes, in comparison to only helping first-time home buyers (or even better imo, the NDP’s housing plans).
And to address crime, I’ll admit I like their claim to target off-shore tax havens, but the Conservatives have also mentioned targeting pro-Palestinian protestors with jail time (and deportation for internationals) … not to mention, I believe a lot of crime stems from economic and social instability. They haven’t even released an economic platform, but I won’t be surprised if they cut social programs while blaming Trudeau and letting the rich benefit with tax breaks. How will that make Canada safer?
To be fair, the Liberal’s economic platform disappointed me, but at least they released something. Regardless of what happens, I hope Canadians remember that we’re in this together, and that we need to start holding our politicians accountable. And more importantly, that change for change’s sake isn’t good enough - that we deserve better, not just different.
Fuck you for voting against my human rights! 😊
